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Old 5th August 2017, 04:26 AM   #831
paugie is offline paugie  Philippines
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For the standard Wiener I had a strong preference for a linear regulated supply over laptop bricks and even audio-grade SMPS. Even a very basic linear regulated supply was better,
So I would say YES try a linear regulated supply!
Thanks much, BK
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Old 13th August 2017, 07:13 AM   #832
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Default is the Weiner a dead project?

I've been asking every now and then for a bit over a year now - is there going to be another round of Weiners produced. Seems like the answer is looking like a no.

with that in mind, anyone have a weiner pro they'd like to on sell?


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Old 15th August 2017, 05:52 AM   #833
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BK was kind enough to offer a spare board which I was able to wire up to my build. I quickly reviewed the switch settings and it looked good, made sure not to tighten screws too much, and it made noise when I hit play, so I put it away for later.

When I got it out again, the speakers started to periodically "get sucked in" for half a second. It would still amplify the source for half a second between each thud. I took it out and tried different settings and found that 1SPW mode would work but not BD mode. After I put everything back together I noticed 1SPW sounded different, like the low end was very attenuated. There was also noticeably more signal noise with no input plugged in. This led me to take it out of the case again to try different settings.

BD mode would produce a periodic fault/speaker thud. The speaker thud was initially a long DC signal as the driver would travel pretty far down and stay down for half a second. I measured it at the time and was getting just over 12VDC, which is the battery voltage it was powered by.

I left it to troubleshoot another day. I unwired all the terminals and took it completely off the case. At this point both 1SPW and BD mode were both producing the periodic fault, but the thud changed to a pop at some point. The start-up delay adjustment directly impacts the length of the period between each fault. The LED turns off at the same time as the pop.

When I read the voltage during the faults now, its about 0.3VDC. If I decrease the start-up delay it will climb to 1.7VDC. I suspect my DMM isn't sampling fast enough to catch the faster spike unless I increase its frequency.

With no inputs connected, a 19V laptop brick, and two speakers attached, I tried pretty much all of the DIP switch settings. Placing the board into standby mode between each change.

Two of the states I tried did produce a slightly different result - the pops we're a split second apart from one another. All other states had both speakers pop at about the same time. This happened in these states:
1SPW 1 Mhz and 26dB pop separated by ~1/4 second
1SPW 1.2 Mhz and 26dB pop separated by ~1/3 second

I'm not sure what to do now, I guess I will take another good long look at it to see if I missed anything I may have damaged. Thank you to BK for helping me get this far.

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Old 17th August 2017, 03:55 AM   #834
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jorem and I took the troubleshooting as far as my (limited!) knowledge could go.

Ideally gmarsh or another TPA311x guru can suggest informative test points/diagnostics.

I'm hopeful we can identify the fault in jorem's replacement board and repair it. The other lingering question is the root cause of the failure(s). jorem's project is super cool and it'd be great to see it alive again!

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Old 1st January 2018, 08:45 PM   #835
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Is there a BOM anywhere? The project at mouser doesn't have an part numbering. I purchased a while ago and finally getting around to build and it would be great to have a bom.

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Old 1st January 2018, 09:28 PM   #836
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gmarsh made a nice pdf with all info. If you can't find it pm me your email and I'll send it to you.

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