Potential 600ohm LCR group buy

Gluca · 09:07 PM

Gauging interest for 600ohm (pultec clone) LCR RIAA modules. Lundahl has 45mH and 1.8 H chokes on catalog and they are selling for 130euro/pair and you need to add a couple capacitors and few resistors. We can also run a short PCB batch to make things prettier and easier to build. I believe a target price would be 300euro/pair but maybe we can work on that if volumes go up.

Gianluca

analog_sa · 17th December 2012, 08:59 PM

Isn't life much easier with a 10k LCR?

Gluca · 17th December 2012, 09:07 PM

yes it is ... only 10k commercial available module I am aware of is by Silk and it is said to have a roll off at higher freqs. we should be sourcing bigger chokes for a 10k unit but I guess we would be facing the same roll off.

d to the g · 18th December 2012, 12:25 AM

Noguchi has a reasonably priced 600 ohm set I was considering on my next trip to Japan, but if someone had a line on a good 10k set at a decent price I could be interested.

Gluca · 18th December 2012, 10:28 AM

Who is noguchi?

nicoch58 · 18th December 2012, 10:42 AM

non te lo diciamo

revintage · 18th December 2012, 10:55 AM

Note, Dave Slagle Intactaudio/forum is the LCR-guru. He will tailor LCRs to suit anyones needs.

I have a pair of Lundahls and they have below acceptable tolerances. To be of use they need to be matched. They might have solved the problems now as it was a quite a few years since I bought them. I have a source who, anyway earlier, had matced units to sell.

The Tangos I had earlier had extremely tight tolerances.

Gluca · 18th December 2012, 12:38 PM

Jacmusic sells matched LL chokes (3% tolerance) and as far as I know a new model is now available. I know about the many discussions on Dave's forum and i am pretty sure his irons would be' bullett proof but not sure that would be a proper andlarge group buy. I need to recheck what's the story with that 7.5k RIAA he was developing

revintage · 18th December 2012, 01:11 PM

Hello Gluca,
I guess Jacmusic has some connection with Diyparadiso in Belgium from where I have bought Lundahl. I think Lundahl made the LCRs for Diyparadiso at special order.

Do your really think 3% is good enough? Off course you can optimize with the caps and Rs but I would opt for 1%.

Gluca · 18th December 2012, 01:21 PM

I need to run some sims on spice to see how tollerance comes into the game. I never worked hands on a LCR RIAA (thou I've built 2 LC 18 and 24 dB 600ohm xover for my biamped system) but i guess you need to fine tune R and C to get closer to the ideal curve.

17th December 2012, 08:51 PM	#1
Gluca diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Back to Italy	Potential 600ohm LCR group buy Gauging interest for 600ohm (pultec clone) LCR RIAA modules. Lundahl has 45mH and 1.8 H chokes on catalog and they are selling for 130euro/pair and you need to add a couple capacitors and few resistors. We can also run a short PCB batch to make things prettier and easier to build. I believe a target price would be 300euro/pair but maybe we can work on that if volumes go up. Gianluca Last edited by Gluca; 17th December 2012 at 09:07 PM.

18th December 2012, 10:42 AM	#6
nicoch58 diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004	non te lo diciamo __________________ Sic58

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17th December 2012, 08:59 PM	#2
analog_sa diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sofia	Isn't life much easier with a 10k LCR?

17th December 2012, 09:07 PM	#3
Gluca diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Back to Italy	yes it is ... only 10k commercial available module I am aware of is by Silk and it is said to have a roll off at higher freqs. we should be sourcing bigger chokes for a 10k unit but I guess we would be facing the same roll off.

18th December 2012, 12:25 AM	#4
d to the g diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: minimalopolis	Noguchi has a reasonably priced 600 ohm set I was considering on my next trip to Japan, but if someone had a line on a good 10k set at a decent price I could be interested.

18th December 2012, 10:28 AM	#5
Gluca diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Back to Italy	Who is noguchi?

18th December 2012, 10:55 AM	#7
revintage diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2007	Note, Dave Slagle Intactaudio/forum is the LCR-guru. He will tailor LCRs to suit anyones needs. I have a pair of Lundahls and they have below acceptable tolerances. To be of use they need to be matched. They might have solved the problems now as it was a quite a few years since I bought them. I have a source who, anyway earlier, had matced units to sell. The Tangos I had earlier had extremely tight tolerances.

18th December 2012, 12:38 PM	#8
Gluca diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Back to Italy	Jacmusic sells matched LL chokes (3% tolerance) and as far as I know a new model is now available. I know about the many discussions on Dave's forum and i am pretty sure his irons would be' bullett proof but not sure that would be a proper andlarge group buy. I need to recheck what's the story with that 7.5k RIAA he was developing

18th December 2012, 01:11 PM	#9
revintage diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2007	Hello Gluca, I guess Jacmusic has some connection with Diyparadiso in Belgium from where I have bought Lundahl. I think Lundahl made the LCRs for Diyparadiso at special order. Do your really think 3% is good enough? Off course you can optimize with the caps and Rs but I would opt for 1%.

18th December 2012, 01:21 PM	#10
Gluca diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Back to Italy	I need to run some sims on spice to see how tollerance comes into the game. I never worked hands on a LCR RIAA (thou I've built 2 LC 18 and 24 dB 600ohm xover for my biamped system) but i guess you need to fine tune R and C to get closer to the ideal curve.