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Old 16th July 2012, 11:05 AM   #681
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Timpert / Jelle - congratulations on your pro-active involvement, every forum needs members like you!
Now the rescue is in hand, can you give us any insight as to what went wrong - may be useful for preventing difficulties with any future GBs.
Also, I'd like to say that I never had any problem with my own dealings with Jokener, and whatever went wrong, I wish him well.

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Old 16th July 2012, 11:14 AM   #682
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Timpert / Jelle

You guys show how good this forum can be....many many thanks.

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Old 16th July 2012, 11:37 AM   #683
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Well done Timpert and Jelle, I'd say that was some classy leadership.
I think also some positive recognition that Jokener so nearly got it right. If you look through the progress of the Australian O2 GB, it's clear that things could have been a lot more protracted and ugly.
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Old 16th July 2012, 04:19 PM   #684
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Thanks for the complements.

Jokener has (as soon as the 4002's arrive) quite several kits left, upgrade kits, transformers, cases (b2/b3) and a lot of pcb's. Contact him directly to sort it out with him. The hardest work is now done, so it is all shipping ready by now.

I understand after picking 250 sets together on his one, he was hold back to create the kit bags and figuring out the special orders. All in all it was properly organized. But boy oh boy, what a work. Just getting together 25 kits, the specials orders, packing it all together and make 6 upgrade kits, it took us three more then 4 hours. So that's 12 hours if your on your one.

Speaking about the upgrade kit (the 5% of the proposed head-fi O2 upgrade that does makes a small difference), kan anyone send me the link where this is discussed? Also I heard yesterday about an (Australian?) all acrylic case for the O2. Does anyone have a link to that? Somehow I have missed this following the abundance of info on the O2. Thanks!
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Old 19th July 2012, 09:38 AM   #685
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Yay, you guys finally made it!!! :-) My kit just arrived here in my office, and it seems to contain everything I ordered. The power converter is pretty heavy, so it seems to be worth its money. And by the way, thanks for the additional PCB!
Too bad I am going to leave Germany tomorrow night... two more weeks of waiting :-(
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Old 20th July 2012, 08:03 AM   #686
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The absolute majority of the shipments is now out and on their way.
Only the ones with a special customs declarations (for countries such as Korea or Taiwan) are still unshipped.
Thats because I got to the post office at 5:15pm on Tuesday and they closed at 6pm, so there was no time to get all shipments out.
(Yeah, the guys there are not the fastest people in the world.)
And yesterday/thursday someone bumped into my car on my way home from work, so I couldn't get it done then.
My car should be out of the workshop in a couple of hours, so those last shipments will go out today.

I have sent all shipments with a tracking number, those with a transformer also have insurance.
If you need your shipping number, please send me an email and I can provide you with a link.
(The same address as my PayPal account, just with an @me.com at the end.)
You won't be able to see exact tracking information such as current location of the shipment, but the major status changes like crossing borders or delivery attempts, those will be in there.

The 1N4002's are also ordered and on their way.
As soon as they arrive, I have another 20 complete kits fully assembled.
But after the catastrophic experience from last time, I will not sell them until they ARE complete.
Also, I have 10+ transformers and 15+ enclosures as well as 1000+ PCB's left.
As soon as I am sure everybody has received their ordered parts, I will sell off the remaining stock.
Feel free to contact me about that, but as I said, I'll only accept component kit orders AFTER I have the kits assembled (and complete) and ready to ship.
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Old 20th July 2012, 11:42 AM   #687
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@Jokener - over the last several months, you have sold a lot of kits, but have also shown exactly how a group buy shouldn't be run. Your lack of communication has been abysmal. You have pissed off a lot of your customers, and have lost all your credibility on this forum. May I respectfully suggest that you try to do a deal with one of the other kit vendors, such as Stefan at Head'n Hifi, see if they will take all your stock off your hands, and seriously consider getting out of the O2 kit business without tryng to sell any more kits - having to be 'rescued' by other forum members should have told you this.
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Old 20th July 2012, 02:01 PM   #688
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My order arrived at 7:30 this moring thanks for the efforts guys.
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Old 22nd July 2012, 10:56 PM   #689
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@Jokener - over the last several months, you have sold a lot of kits, but have also shown exactly how a group buy shouldn't be run. Your lack of communication has been abysmal. You have pissed off a lot of your customers, and have lost all your credibility on this forum. May I respectfully suggest that you try to do a deal with one of the other kit vendors, such as Stefan at Head'n Hifi, see if they will take all your stock off your hands, and seriously consider getting out of the O2 kit business without tryng to sell any more kits - having to be 'rescued' by other forum members should have told you this.
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Old 23rd July 2012, 12:26 AM   #690
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you should not be so hard on him
What's so hard about stating the facts, then making a respectful suggestion that may save him more grief? I have no axe to grind with Jokener, he has always done right by me, but having done my own group buys for the O2, on a smaller scale, I know how difficult it can be; communication is key; it would all have been different if Jokener had posted updates on a regular basis, rather than leaving so many people in the dark about what had happened to their kits/parts/etc. Building an O2 should be a pleasurable experience, and this whole fiasco has been anything but for those involved.
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