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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hamburg / Germany
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Luke,
I will be able to offer you: - the AMP PCB for 13€ - the DX PSU PCB for 7€ - the LSProt PCB for 5€ International shipping in coated letter is 5€. If you pay via PAYPAL please add 4% PAYPAL cost. The main group-buy thread is documented here (German Analog Forum - have a look at the pictures): http://www.analog-forum.de/wbboard/i...threadID=77848 I will close the group-buy next week. Best regards - Rudi_Ratlos Last edited by Rudi_Ratlos; 13th May 2011 at 11:19 AM. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hamburg / Germany
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This group-buy is closed now.
The interest in these PCBs has not been big in this forum, but I have a lot of orders from the German DIY forum. Yesterday night I rendered the PCB with EAGLE3D and Povray(though some components are still missing). This is, how the PCB will finally look like: [img=http://www.abload.de/thumb/symasymz8k8.jpg] Best regards - Rudi_Ratlos |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hamburg / Germany
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This is the result:
![]() http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2559/kg8sw3qi_jpg.htm Isn't this PCB a beauty? I did not apply power yet, but I am sure, it will sound as good as it looks. Best regards - Rudi_Ratlos |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Belgium the land of chocolate
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Rudi,very nice ,clean and ordered layout.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hamburg / Germany
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The 1st round of my TO-3 SYMASYM group-buy has been an incredible success in Germany.
This version includes a Cap-multiplier for the frontend and uses 2 pairs of TO-3s on the output. The German DIYers like to build mono-blocks, and here is an example, how the TO-3 SYMASYM has been set up by one of them: http://www.abload.de/img/image_d9ee32089d8c7ecda71x.jpg There has been one flaw concerning my design (the power dissipation of the driver transistors), and I did a few minor corrections (after simulating them thoroughly) on the schematics and mounted the drivers on the L-profile as well. Have a look at the resulting version 2 - layout: http://www.abload.de/img/untitledj7eu.jpg The red pads and tracks are showing the copper pads and tracks on the top-side of the PCB. The layout, PCB - quality and sound of this amp is unmatched. I do currently not see any rival to this amp. My TO-3 SYMASYM is not only a hommage to TO-3 transistors; this AMP "plays" music. I will offer a very limited edition (a "Small Kit", consisting of PCB, TO-3s, MPC74 emitter resistors and ALU-L Profile) - the TO-3 SYMASYM LE - by the end of August. The price of a small kit will be very fair. Best regards - Rudi_Ratlos Last edited by Rudi_Ratlos; 29th July 2011 at 04:18 PM. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zagreb
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Colorado, USA
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Rudi,
I am interested in one of your "small" symasym kits. Please add me to your list. Cheers, Ryan
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hamburg / Germany
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...why is this the best amp of all?
I did not use these words, Damir, and I did not say:" ... sounds better than ..." I emphasized the quality of the PCB, the elegant layout - approved by my layout-mentor -that took many, many hours to do, resulting in vivid, smooth tracks, clear distinction between Power- and Signal-tracks, take - off points, where they should be, the beautiful "TO-3 SYMASYM Builder's Manual", ..., and the sound. I did some small enhancements on Michael Bittner's original design (added a CAP-multiplier for the front-end, for example), but maybe it is the synergy of his folded cascode structure, his toughly coupled feedback and TO-3 transistors on the output that produces a sound: power and dynamics, more than you can bear, smooth, with a timbre that you feel like in heaven, a feast for your ears. I will give you another example. You listen to a "bootstrapped" AMP (I do not tell you the name of his designer) and you say: "Well - it sounds allright." Listen to the same AMP having original, non-fake SANKEN 2SA1216 / 2SC2922 on the output - and you will not stop listening. This is, what counts "in my ears": to have the chance to "listen to an event". The TO-3 SYMASYM, having two pairs of MJ21193/MJ21194 on the output, is such an "event", and it is simply the best. RYAN: you are in for 2 small kits. Best regards - Rudi_Ratlos |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zagreb
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I see Rudi what you whant to say, just be careful when you state
" I do currently not see any rival to this amp." This is in a way as DX amps are descibed and it's preposterous. I am sure the PCB is exelent and the support too. Original SYMASIM uses faster output transistor and technically it should be better. I would like to listen to both but it's no possible as I do not have them and no time to bild as I have other project in line. I am fascinated how DIY in Germany is good, so many enthusiasts. regards Damir |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Hello Rudi,
I´m interested in 3 x 2 PCBs. Are they still aviable? |
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