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Old 8th February 2008, 06:41 AM   #1
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Default Power Amp PSU Board (for e.g. LYNX Amp)

Some have shown interest in a group buy for a PSU board in the LYNX Amp PCB group buy here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...98#post1422898
Thanks to Carl for taking care of that thread

Those who are interested can participate here.
I will make the layout and have the PCB's made according to what's decided here in this thread.

The PSU Board should be universal and fitt all common diy Power Amps.

Please come with your suggestions.....
1. What type of rectifier diodes?
2. Should power caps be on the PCB?
If so, what type and how many uF?
3. Connections?

Let the ideas flow
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Old 9th February 2008, 10:16 AM   #2
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Default Re: Power Amp PSU Board (for e.g. LYNX Amp)

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Some have shown interest in a group buy for a PSU board in the LYNX Amp PCB group buy here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...98#post1422898
Thanks to Carl for taking care of that thread

Those who are interested can participate here.
I will make the layout and have the PCB's made according to what's decided here in this thread.

The PSU Board should be universal and fitt all common diy Power Amps.

Please come with your suggestions.....
1. What type of rectifier diodes?
2. Should power caps be on the PCB?
If so, what type and how many uF?
3. Connections?

Let the ideas flow
Ok, here is some suggestions:

1: TO220 single diodes with room for SK104 heatsinks.

2: Yes, please. At least room for 4 pcs 10mm snapins. Minimum Dia 35mm.
Preferrably, room for 6 pcs, and a filmbypass would also be nice.

3: Pads to make a CRC supply, say provision for 5 pcs 3 watters per rail (Can be jumpered if not wanted). Maybe a bleeder resistor would be nice also, say one 3 watter 3,3K resistor.
It would also be nice to have 2mm connections for making a CLC supply.
5mm spacing for all AC/DC connections for terminalblocks.
Number of GND connections in the DC end: 4. 4 would add great flexibilty if you would use one supply for 2 channels and wanted easy connection of the speaker GND's.


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Old 9th February 2008, 11:16 AM   #3
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Thanks steenoe

No problems so far....

Will make a schematich and post here later this weekend, so we have something to work from
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Old 9th February 2008, 07:01 PM   #4
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Steenoe,
Why not the three terminal rectifier diodes like the MUR3020/3060? I think those would be a good idea also.
The rest of it sounds good. Maybe a snap off portion to use as a regulator section for the front end of the amp? That would make it truely universal and maybe help sell more of them.
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Old 9th February 2008, 07:58 PM   #5
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Hi Jan

Thanks for the post. I agree with all of the above and would like to include the following.

1. Resistor and LED on board for each rail is a nice touch.

2. Connection points for AC and DC should be screwdriver terminals - the nice heavy three way types are good or faston terminals.

3. I would allow at least 4 off 35mm Diameter snap in caps per rail which would allow over 100,000uF per rail for class A amps.

4 Provision on the board for CRC or CLC. Pads on board for at least 4 resistors (3 watt) in each rail and then provision for terminals for off board air core inductors.

5. Pads for at least 10 watt bleeder resistor to ground for each rail.

6. Provision for film bypass caps for the large electro caps.

7. Diodes mentioned above are both good, but also with provision on board for parallel caps on each diode for suppression.

8. Fully loaded board with large caps will be heavy,so tracks should be as wide as possible for the rails and the board should be made from thicker fibreglass than normal.

These are my thoughts for now.

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Old 10th February 2008, 12:38 AM   #6
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Hi again Jan.

Based on all of the above thoughts, let me express my interest here for at least 10 of these PSU boards.

This would be based on final size and final costs.

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I see that I forgot to write in the first post, that this is only an interest check, and there are no obligation before layout and price are known

Thanks to all. I find many of your ideas very good but please keep in mind, that this PCB will be large if all ideas are incoorporated......

There are no problem having this made in thicker boards with thicker copper. Price will just be higher!

steenoe and Gary S;
Please specify needed area per Rail for CRC, pad hole size etc.
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Old 10th February 2008, 06:40 AM   #8
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I don't think the larger size and a little more cost will be a problem, as long as this board solves some of the deficiencies of some of the other PS PCB's available.
I for one would be interested in 6-10 of them, as long as they had all of the features that have been brought up.
I think the needed area per rail for the resistors of the CRC section should be enough for 4-5 three watters per rail. I believe that would suit most peoples needs. In the space between them there might be room to fit a bleeder resistor for each rail. That way there shouldn't be any wasted board space.
An idea for the layout could be something like CLCCRC, with 2mm connections for the inductor. Maybe include a linked set of pads for a jumper, or some could use multiple resistors in that area for CRCCRC.
On the capacitor mounts, we could use the standard 10mm snapin mount designed for 35mm, but with just enough room for 40mm diameter caps and linked 7.5 or 5mm pads for underboard bypass caps to save space if needed.

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Old 10th February 2008, 08:34 AM   #9
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Hi Jan

I agree with Landoctor's thoughts. As you mention you want to do this board as a universal PSU board, and a lot of people on this forum are leaning toward class A amps, then a lot of room will need to be allowed for a lot of capacitance for snap in caps.

For people building class AB amps, then they do not have to load all capacitor positions. Amps of this size need plenty of chassis space, which is usually dictated by the size of heatsinking required (especially for pure class A designs), then the PSU board size will be not normally a problem.

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CRC/CLCCRC etc.
Most simple way would be to make an area only of pads in two or three different sizes, so people can make what kind of CRC/CLC they wants........

Decoupling/bypass caps
There will be pads for decoupling caps across each rectifier diode, and across all big PSU caps (size LxW: 7.5x4.5mm/pad distance 5mm)

PSU Caps
This will be space for 40mm diameter caps (snap-in) with 10, 7.5 and 5 mm pad distance.
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