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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: near Hamburg Germany
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Hello,
the listeners feedback is a cause to make the plan for free download: Trombone best soundstage, cheap, small, enough SPL. http://www.hm-moreart.de/24.htm http://www.hm-moreart.de/88.htm
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Reykjavík
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Definitely a design I'm curious to hear. Thanks!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Bavaria
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Yes...sounds very interesting...but it's a very complicated design and I ask myself....why?
Wouldn't it be more satisfying to take a 5" or 6" driver with a less comlicated enclosure? But it's interesting...without a doubt! |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: near Hamburg Germany
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look the Posaune
http://www.hm-moreart.de/25.htm for 6,5 driver or Manger, http://www.hm-moreart.de/25.htm and the last plan page you find a Posaune for 4" driver. I built it after the Saxophon to hear what is possible, the Trombone ist the smallest fullrange horn with the cheapest price and best soundstage I ever built. 2 x 4" page
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Is Trombone bipolar or dipolar? I was always fascinated by Manger Diskus.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: near Hamburg Germany
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Bi-pol,
when you use the back driver invers change the pol. You might get a better K2 in the bass and less HT effect over ~1000 Hz (the end of the speaker invers) because it stands near a wall, so HT reflection not wanted. The distance between the driver is smaller than between your ears, it is like one driver.
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Im sorry if this sounds ignorant, but so your basicaly using two speakers on two horns, per ch. One acting as a bass driver, the inverted one, and one acting above that and using the horns natural roll off as an X over?
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: near Hamburg Germany
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sorry,
there is much to tell, to much for my English. look the single simulation of the membranmovement, how looks the complet system movement? I think the movement turn to an average, if so its a kind of revolution, because everything gets better by lower movement. and what happens at 40 Hz the back driver moves more but it can because it has a horn optimum, low movement The single simulation shows nothing below 70 Hz but you get 38 Hz. There a some facts, like 4 horn mouth, 90°, horn mouth distance, impedanz etc. the alphorn instrument, to much to write. I asked Mr. Dicks (DDD) and Mr. Keller (AER) but no explanation is real found. It happens look also the Saxophon and Posaune
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: near Hamburg Germany
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The best bass explanation ist found:
Double horn explanation: Building of organs This phenomenon is used for a long time in the building of organs: With simultaneous employment of the 8-foot and the 51/3-foot, which lie a Quinte over it, one hears the 16-foot, thus a Oktave under the 8-foot. Thus a missing basic clay/tone can be simulated, in which two clay/tone producers on the Oktave and the pure Duodezime ring out at the same time to material the missing basic clay/tone. With the organ will so e.g. 32 ' - registers saved, in which (preferably open) 16 ' - Labialregister with (covered) a 102/3' a Labialregister one combines.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: near Hamburg Germany
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not really, or ??
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