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Old 18th February 2007, 07:16 PM   #1
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Default Fe166e - simple cabinet - plz advise.

Hi

I just got a pair of fe166e last month, but have difficulty to get the Fostex's BLH cabinet built -- it's too complicated. I am looking for another cabinet that is simpler to build. Is there any PAWO or simple Bass Reflex design esp. for floot standing one?

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Old 18th February 2007, 07:50 PM   #2
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There is a small bass reflex cabinet at the bottom of this *.pdf at Madisound:

http://www.madisound.com/pdf/fostexdrivers/FE166E.pdf

A stand could easily be built into the design to make it tall like a floor standing one.
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Old 19th February 2007, 04:01 AM   #3
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Martin King has a project for an older version of that driver, but, I think I've seen someone say that the 166 is a drop-in replacement .

Also there's the BIB project, for various drivers, that has a version for the 166e, fifth down.

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Old 19th February 2007, 04:55 AM   #4
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Martin King has a project for an older version of that driver, but, I think I've seen someone say that the 166 is a drop-in replacement .

Also there's the BIB project, for various drivers, that has a version for the 166e, fifth down.

Tom.
Thanks Kinnja and renfrow for your response.

Fostex's recommended bass reflex looks simple but not sure if it will work properly since Fostex said this driver is unsuitable for BR ( Do I worry overly? ).

The BIB looks good I will try checking for reference if it can be used with FE166e.

Any other advice are also very welcome.
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Old 19th February 2007, 05:28 AM   #5
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See what anyone has to say about an MLTL for your build.

Possibly Bob Brines at Brines Acoustics or audioroundtable as well.

The Mass Loaded Transmission Line has performed the best for
me and the build is a lot simpler than it sounds. I'm using 4 inch
Fostex FE127e's for the MLTL so the mileage will vary.
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Old 19th February 2007, 08:11 AM   #6
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The FE166E is not a drop-in replacement for the 164 unfortunately. It's the FE167E stablemate that's the equivalent unit.

I'm afraid your options with the 166 are far more restricted than with the 167, as the Q of the 166 is too low for it to make a natural match to an MLTL or ML TQWT. Wanting a simple box just restricts your options still further -I'm not ciriticising here, just working through in stages.

You can make the 166 work in an MLTL / ML TQWT cabinet, but you'll need pretty heavy correction to get the response into line (it will rapidly rise with increasing frequency). Either massive (active) EQ, or a passive correction circuit. This will work, but the trade-off is either increased expense, if you don't already have an Eq box, or severely reduced sensitivity. The BIB is probably about the best simple cabinet option for this unit IMO, and will work fine with the 166 -you'll find some cabinet dimensions I suggested for this unit on the Zilla pages. And it will have bass. Oh yes.
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Old 19th February 2007, 02:16 PM   #7
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thanks for all your comment.

(though I am pretty regret for buying the fe166e -____")
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Old 21st February 2007, 02:21 AM   #8
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i can vouch for the bib!

i built one, quite easy actually, and bass?


....i can vouch for the bass as well, so can every picture on my wall and every small tiem on my shelf.

but i actually throoughly enjoy the bib, even without anysort of filter its amazing.
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Old 21st February 2007, 03:27 PM   #9
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i can vouch for the bib!

i built one, quite easy actually, and bass?


....i can vouch for the bass as well, so can every picture on my wall and every small tiem on my shelf.

but i actually throoughly enjoy the bib, even without anysort of filter its amazing.
Do you mind letting me know which one / design? Any photo?

Thanks a lot.
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I've been learning a bit how the BIB works in room space.

I don't have the setup for sitting back 20 ft on a big couch so
my listeind space is close up in a big room. The BIB probably performs better with a larger soundstage in a big room so I'mn trying to figure
where my adjustments should be. No china rattling nor do I wish for any.

My exploration of these builds has been of the a/b variety-- sampling one against another so it's not true 'stereo' or surround or anything else. Still, I feel it gives an adequate representation of the device itself. for that reason and for my purposes, I always come back to the MLTL as the best solution. Still playing with all the variables, but I notices that in a/b comparison I did not care for the BIB in a corner
placement. For one thing, baseboards heaters and the build itself (which is pretty much a mockup yet) did not allow for true corner placement.

This leads me to think that a build like the Metronome might give
the best of both worlds: relative nearfield positioning, lowered volume and good overall sound representation in the bass and treble.
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