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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Berkeley, CA
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I'm going to buy a pair of Fostex FE207E (maybe 206E if i can do w/o the shielding) and was looking for a design that fits these needs:
a. vented BR or vented DBR... b. floorstanding...if possible c. simple easy to build d. no crossover Any ideas? |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ontario
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Martin King's ML TL for the FE207/206 (Project 5) is reportedly excellent. See his write up at http://www.quarter-wave.com/Project05/Project05.html Though not a BR (or DBR) in principle, its built the same way as a BR.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Berkeley, CA
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I'm trying to squeeze the most bass possible out've a pair of fullrange 8"s -- hence why I was led to believe a vented floorstanding BR/DBR design is the way to go.
And for simplicity's sake, I'm trying to avoid a crossover (at least for now) but still manage to have these things drop jaws. I did a search and read that 75-liters was a good size? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong (that seems awfully large...) |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ontario
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An ML TL is a vented enclosure and will give a response down to the 30s -- it looks like a tall BR but acoustically works differently (better).
Note that unless you build a horn you'll need at least a BSC (baffle step correction circuit) whether it is a BR, DBR, or ML TL. The BSC for Martin's Project 5 is provided. Martin King is very highly regarded and this site provides the theory behind his designs as well. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Well I'm using the FE207E standard DBR enclosure (I've posted the pic in the gallery) and there is no particular need of a BSC to my taste (but the simple BR just could'nt work without one). I'm using tube and hybrid tube/mosfets amps, so that might explain.
This is already excellent. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: May 2006
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I'm using the FE207e in MJKs MLTL project 5 and using EQ instead of a passive circuit. With my system, the result is really pretty impressive as far as my failing ears can tell.
I thoroughly endorse the MLTLs as the bad carpenters first go at DIY cheers __________________________________________________ ___ cheap noname CDP + monica2 DAC + EQ+ active pre built by Nuuk + charlize |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UK
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Martin's MLTLs are as good as it gets for an 8in driver in terms of extension, in a (relatively) compact enclosure. Ed's folded TQWT is good too in terms of weight (better if anything) but doesn't go quite as low. Remember, the BSC circuit is not a crossover -it just attenuates the HF to compensate for baffle-step loss.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: British Antarctic Territory
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I vote for Martin's project 5. But if you can spare the space and lumber, also consider the Bigger-is-Better design: http://www.zillaspeak.com/bib-fostex.asp |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Hampshire
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I'd recommend Bob Brines version of Martin King's Project 5, if only because you can buy the plans off of him making the planning a lot easier.
They are big speakers still, compared to retail floorstanders at least, but you will get decent bass out of them. For comparison they made my Mission M74i's (which reviewers praised for it's bass output) sound very weak. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: uk
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Hi Ray
I know I shouldn't be promoting my own babies but everyday brings a bigger smile to my face with these. They address b,c and d on your list...and I believe any more bass out of these would be in the realms of fiction....... www.vitalstates.co.uk follow the vofo link Regards Ed |
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