Cabinets making little difference?

legendaryfrog · 1st December 2006, 12:02 AM

Hi everyone. Ill be receiving 2 pairs of FE127e's on december 9, and i'd like to get a head start on the cabinets.

i was thinking about one of the following:

http://www.fostexinternational.com/d...108ez_encl.pdf

or the simpler:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1139772928

would i notice much of a difference?

im okay with the extra work, but aslong as it sounds better in any way, ill do it.

ANOTHER QUESTION:

Which cabinet (for the FE127e) will give me the best mid's and high's?

thanks.

ronc · 1st December 2006, 12:25 AM

I rather disagree with your topic title.
Cabs make or break the overall sound. Even its an OB, the performance is a blend of the driver/cab/room/amp/source.

ron

Audio_idiot · 1st December 2006, 12:30 AM

Quote:

I rather disagree with your topic title.

Cabs make or break the overall sound. Even its an OB, the performance is a blend of the driver/cab/room/amp/source.

ron

Ditto

legendaryfrog · 1st December 2006, 02:13 AM

i understand that i went wrong with the title, but could i have my question answered first?

Audio_idiot · 1st December 2006, 02:25 AM

Hi,

Quote:

http://www.fostexinternational.com/.../108ez_encl.pdf

These are Back load horn

Quote:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/atta...tamp=1139772928

This is Transmission-Line

They will have distinctive different.

maxro · 1st December 2006, 05:11 AM

Well, the Fostex design is for an FE108Esigma, which is not an FE127E.

As a quick comparo:

Fe108: Qt 0.3 / Vas 5.7 l / Fs 77Hz / Sd .005m2
Fe127: Qt 0.43 / Vas 9.9 l / Fs 70hz / Sd .0067m2

So, in addition to the extra woodwork, it will probably sound worse than the MLTL design.

Max

maxro · 1st December 2006, 05:16 AM

You might want to check out Planet 10's Fonken design here.

Scottmoose · 1st December 2006, 04:45 PM

Possibly the tombstone folded Metronome would be a good plan too.

The 108 horn might work, but Qt is a little high for that particular design IMO.

Dumbass · 1st December 2006, 04:57 PM

>> http://www.fostexinternational.com/d...108ez_encl.pdf

Don't build a cabinet that isn't designed for the driver.

>> Which cabinet (for the FE127e) will give me the best mid's and high's?

Mids and highs are largely determined by the driver itself (and of course where you place it w.r.t. the listener, room, etc). However, how the bass is loaded makes a big difference on tonal balance, which makes a big difference on how mids and highs are heard. Inadequate or lumpy bass will make mids and highs sound harsh and overly treblyl. Good, balanced bass will make the mids and highs sound correct.

If I were you I would build one of the many cabinets designed specifically for the 127e:
http://www.planet10-hifi.com/boxes-fostex.html

The monopole MLTL would be an easy build with small footprint:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1102456925

legendaryfrog · 1st December 2006, 10:35 PM

ill be using the PAWO from planet -10. thanks

1st December 2006, 12:02 AM	#1
legendaryfrog diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Cabinets making little difference? Hi everyone. Ill be receiving 2 pairs of FE127e's on december 9, and i'd like to get a head start on the cabinets. i was thinking about one of the following: http://www.fostexinternational.com/d...108ez_encl.pdf or the simpler: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1139772928 would i notice much of a difference? im okay with the extra work, but aslong as it sounds better in any way, ill do it. ANOTHER QUESTION: Which cabinet (for the FE127e) will give me the best mid's and high's? thanks.

1st December 2006, 05:11 AM	#6
maxro diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Survey says: Least happiest city in Canada	Well, the Fostex design is for an FE108Esigma, which is not an FE127E. As a quick comparo: Fe108: Qt 0.3 / Vas 5.7 l / Fs 77Hz / Sd .005m2 Fe127: Qt 0.43 / Vas 9.9 l / Fs 70hz / Sd .0067m2 So, in addition to the extra woodwork, it will probably sound worse than the MLTL design. Max __________________ "Part of the reason a poot into a toilet bowl sounds the way it does is because of phase shift." -Andrew Eckhardt

1st December 2006, 05:16 AM	#7
maxro diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Survey says: Least happiest city in Canada	You might want to check out Planet 10's Fonken design here. __________________ "Part of the reason a poot into a toilet bowl sounds the way it does is because of phase shift." -Andrew Eckhardt

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1st December 2006, 12:25 AM	#2
ronc diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003	I rather disagree with your topic title. Cabs make or break the overall sound. Even its an OB, the performance is a blend of the driver/cab/room/amp/source. ron

1st December 2006, 02:13 AM	#4
legendaryfrog diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2006	i understand that i went wrong with the title, but could i have my question answered first?

1st December 2006, 04:45 PM	#8
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	Possibly the tombstone folded Metronome would be a good plan too. The 108 horn might work, but Qt is a little high for that particular design IMO.

1st December 2006, 04:57 PM	#9
Dumbass diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: British Antarctic Territory	>> http://www.fostexinternational.com/d...108ez_encl.pdf Don't build a cabinet that isn't designed for the driver. >> Which cabinet (for the FE127e) will give me the best mid's and high's? Mids and highs are largely determined by the driver itself (and of course where you place it w.r.t. the listener, room, etc). However, how the bass is loaded makes a big difference on tonal balance, which makes a big difference on how mids and highs are heard. Inadequate or lumpy bass will make mids and highs sound harsh and overly treblyl. Good, balanced bass will make the mids and highs sound correct. If I were you I would build one of the many cabinets designed specifically for the 127e: http://www.planet10-hifi.com/boxes-fostex.html The monopole MLTL would be an easy build with small footprint: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attac...amp=1102456925

1st December 2006, 10:35 PM	#10
legendaryfrog diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2006	ill be using the PAWO from planet -10. thanks

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