Easy project for a beginner. . .

cleatus · 24th November 2006, 08:08 AM

I've been wanting to get into speaker building for a long time now, however, there is just way too much information to choke down. That's why I figured I'd check out the options I have with full range drivers (no crossovers and no extra woofer being my main reasons), and theres still a ton of stuff to think about! x.x

What I'm getting at here is that I want to do a little 'intro' project, probably a set of speakers for my computer. Simple, inexpensive full ranges in simple yet effective enclosures, which will be hooked up to a T-amp or perhaps a Gainclone (already have one in the works).

Any suggestions?

Geek · 24th November 2006, 08:40 AM

Hi,

Checkout the 4 or 7 litre projects here:
http://www.planet10-hifi.com/boxes-CSS.html

kirc · 24th November 2006, 09:15 AM

CSS FR125S is a fantastic driver for its price. You have a lot of box version to build, so go for it and you'll not be disappointed.

In a month I will put some pictures of my CSS speakes

pekar · 27th November 2006, 03:58 PM

Most cabinets require a variety of expensive tools to construct. I don't know how well you're equipped, but...
This one is one of the easiest I've seen to construct.
http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/bfb_e.html
but it's not a bookshelf.
Some of the best bookshelf/HT designs are here-
http://www.zaphaudio.com/
but he likes to add electronic filters.
Cyburg's needle is popular and inexpensive.-
Cyburgs-Needle for Tangband W3-871S
but is too tall for computer speakers.

I looked at the available options and came up with my own DelSol-
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...58#post1055458
which is easy and inexpensive, but will require a tablesaw, router, and holesaw or circle cutting jig to accomplish.

kristleifur · 27th November 2006, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pekar
Cyburg's needle is popular and inexpensive.-
Cyburgs-Needle for Tangband W3-871S
but is too tall for computer speakers.
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The Needle looks and sounds great. (I haven't built a pair yet, but I've heard them.) I have yet to hear any other DIY fullrange speakers, but it seems that there's a quite astonishlingly high standard of quality in DIY speaker design. The forum zeitgeist compared with my limited experience tells me so, at least.

A couple of thoughts on the needle:
They won't go super loud. Depending on how you're going to use them, they might not be an ideal match for a T-Amp - in theory. I've seen a few comments on the needle+t-amp combination though, and the owners did seem quite satisfied. The needles I heard played loud enough with 8W to make you have to turn down the volume down a little for conversation, and they were certainly loud enough for me - but they weren't quite party loud.

As for use of needles as computer speakers w.r.t. height - if there's room for them beside your computer table, I believe they could function well as computer speakers.

I'm not that experienced, but I believe that if you want to go subwooferless, you'd want to look at some form of horn or transmission line speaker that can help the driver put some bass into your room. I'm fully prepared to be corrected on that, though.

Spasticteapot · 27th November 2006, 10:03 PM

For bass, you want a BiB. Not much else you can say about it - the BiB is a bass king. (My BiB's with the classic 40-1354s should be done soon. Woot!)

For sheer simplicity, look up the thread with the Hi-Vi B3S in an open baffle. You'll want a cheap subwoofer to go with them (Sony makes an unusually decent sub for about $ 75), but they're hard to beat for price ($20 for both drivers + $10 for plywood) and simplicity (Drill a hole. Mount speaker driver. Done!)

cleatus · 27th November 2006, 10:12 PM

Looking at the options presented, I really like the look of pekar's Del Sol project. It fits the bill of what I want more or less perfectly - a set of small speakers, using very inexpensive full-ranged drivers (I'm just a high school student, after all), with a simple enclosure design. I'm confident I can pull this off easily, but I'm still open to any other ideas, preferably similar to the DelSol's.

Also, on the subject of the Del Sol, simply out of curiosity, are there any other drivers that can be substituded for the ones suggested, and still obtain a favorable outcome?

Spasticteapot · 27th November 2006, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cleatus
Looking at the options presented, I really like the look of pekar's Del Sol project. It fits the bill of what I want more or less perfectly - a set of small speakers, using very inexpensive full-ranged drivers (I'm just a high school student, after all), with a simple enclosure design. I'm confident I can pull this off easily, but I'm still open to any other ideas, preferably similar to the DelSol's.

Also, on the subject of the Del Sol, simply out of curiosity, are there any other drivers that can be substituded for the ones suggested, and still obtain a favorable outcome?

At $11 each, why bother?

cleatus · 27th November 2006, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spasticteapot

At $11 each, why bother?

As I said it was purely out of curiosity. I don't really know much about drivers, and thus don't know what to look for and such.

Richard Ellis · 28th November 2006, 01:04 AM

Take a gander at the Tang-Band series of three and four inch full ranges'....It seems they are really on top of cutting edge design. At Partsexpress.com
__________________________________Rick.........

24th November 2006, 08:08 AM	#1
cleatus diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Easy project for a beginner. . . I've been wanting to get into speaker building for a long time now, however, there is just way too much information to choke down. That's why I figured I'd check out the options I have with full range drivers (no crossovers and no extra woofer being my main reasons), and theres still a ton of stuff to think about! x.x What I'm getting at here is that I want to do a little 'intro' project, probably a set of speakers for my computer. Simple, inexpensive full ranges in simple yet effective enclosures, which will be hooked up to a T-amp or perhaps a Gainclone (already have one in the works). Any suggestions?

24th November 2006, 09:15 AM	#3
kirc diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Slovenia	CSS FR125S is a fantastic driver for its price. You have a lot of box version to build, so go for it and you'll not be disappointed. In a month I will put some pictures of my CSS speakes __________________ Music is a part of my life, DIY is my life.

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24th November 2006, 08:40 AM	#2
Geek diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Hi, Checkout the 4 or 7 litre projects here: http://www.planet10-hifi.com/boxes-CSS.html

27th November 2006, 03:58 PM	#4
pekar diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: house	Most cabinets require a variety of expensive tools to construct. I don't know how well you're equipped, but... This one is one of the easiest I've seen to construct. http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/bfb_e.html but it's not a bookshelf. Some of the best bookshelf/HT designs are here- http://www.zaphaudio.com/ but he likes to add electronic filters. Cyburg's needle is popular and inexpensive.- Cyburgs-Needle for Tangband W3-871S but is too tall for computer speakers. I looked at the available options and came up with my own DelSol- http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...58#post1055458 which is easy and inexpensive, but will require a tablesaw, router, and holesaw or circle cutting jig to accomplish.

27th November 2006, 10:03 PM	#6
Spasticteapot diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wisconsin....what did you expect?	For bass, you want a BiB. Not much else you can say about it - the BiB is a bass king. (My BiB's with the classic 40-1354s should be done soon. Woot!) For sheer simplicity, look up the thread with the Hi-Vi B3S in an open baffle. You'll want a cheap subwoofer to go with them (Sony makes an unusually decent sub for about $ 75), but they're hard to beat for price ($20 for both drivers + $10 for plywood) and simplicity (Drill a hole. Mount speaker driver. Done!)

27th November 2006, 10:12 PM	#7
cleatus diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Looking at the options presented, I really like the look of pekar's Del Sol project. It fits the bill of what I want more or less perfectly - a set of small speakers, using very inexpensive full-ranged drivers (I'm just a high school student, after all), with a simple enclosure design. I'm confident I can pull this off easily, but I'm still open to any other ideas, preferably similar to the DelSol's. Also, on the subject of the Del Sol, simply out of curiosity, are there any other drivers that can be substituded for the ones suggested, and still obtain a favorable outcome?

28th November 2006, 01:04 AM	#10
Richard Ellis diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mar del Plata, a BIG seasonal getaway city, can see the Ocean from our residence.	Take a gander at the Tang-Band series of three and four inch full ranges'....It seems they are really on top of cutting edge design. At Partsexpress.com __________________________________Rick.........

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