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Old 11th September 2006, 04:40 PM   #1
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Question Need advice on notch filters or BSC for FE207 simple BR

Dear listers

I have mad several searches and found some hints but not the definitive answer.

I have have built the fostex simple BR cabinets for the FE207E and use them on KR 300bs Tube amps. Even though they are wonderful, they visibly need some correction, a thing I expected. Based on your actual experience with these drivers and cabinets, which kind of filter and what values would you advise for this kind of tube amps?

I am quite a newbie as regards filters.

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Old 11th September 2006, 05:00 PM   #2
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Can't give you any values until you tell us how wide the baffle is. A basic crcuit with resistor and inductor in parallel in the + lead, and a zobel across the + & - leads will be fine.
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Old 11th September 2006, 07:16 PM   #3
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Hello!

This is the fostex recommended enclosure

35 liters.

Vent: 80mm diam / 180 mm length

(sorry, it is in metric system)

AS you would expect, this sounds a bit middy, I wish to smooth a bit the upper mid and treble.

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Old 11th September 2006, 07:58 PM   #4
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Assuming your box is about 300mm wide (give or take a few mm here of there won't make an audible difference), then try this:

Parallel a 3ohm resistor with a 1.2mH inductor in the + lead to the driver. After that, run a Zobel consisting of an 8ohm resistor in series with a 3uF cap between the + and - wires.

That should bring the response into line. You can adjust the amount of attenuation by altering the value of the resistor in the circuit (the one in parallel with the inductor) up and down: more resistance will increase the level of attenuation, smaller will reduce it a bit. As resistors aren't expensive, buy a few if you can and play around, though give yourself a good half-hour of listening before deciding to make any changes or not.

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Old 12th September 2006, 01:40 PM   #5
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Parallel a 3ohm resistor with a 1.2mH inductor in the + lead to the driver. After that, run a Zobel consisting of an 8ohm resistor in series with a 3uF cap between the + and - wires.

It's interesting how different people come up with different values. Personal taste and room differences I suppose.

I use 6.8uF=8 ohm for the zobel and 2.5mH||4 ohms for the step filter. This is for an 11.5" wide baffle. With the FE207E, you might consider 1 uF || the step filter.

While you are zeroing in the step filter, you might wire the low side of an L-pad in place of the resistor. That allows 0-8 ohms for testing. Add a resistor if you need to go higher.

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Old 12th September 2006, 01:57 PM   #6
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Nothing like variety.

Go with Bob's -he's much better at this than I am.
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Old 12th September 2006, 05:30 PM   #7
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Scott and Bob: Thanks a lot or your time and help!

My idea is to try the simplest tweaks first, so that I do not alter too much the output of my 300b-s. (Some people seem to add just a RLC on the + wire, is that a regular tweak?).

Bob: just to make sure I understand, as I'm really a newbie in that field
- Zobel : 6.8uF and 8 ohm in series.
- Step: 2.5mH, 4 ohms and maybe 1uF, parallel, on the + wire?

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I'll do some reading in order to understand your suggestions regarding the L-pad (... reeaally newbie )

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Old 12th September 2006, 08:12 PM   #8
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http://www.quarter-wave.com/Project05/BSC_Circuit.pdf

Use this circuit layout, with Bob's values for the 4 components.
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Old 12th September 2006, 08:47 PM   #9
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Hi All

I am also in the process of experimenting with the BSC values in my 206 MLTL. I started with the middle values suggested in Martin King's table. Please correct me if am wrong but as I understand it, I need to increase the value of parallel component of the circuit if I want to have more bass and increase the zobel if I want to tame (reduce) the highs? Thanks in anticipation.
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Pretty much. The zobel is probably OK, I'd look to the parallels first. I don't like the 206 in this sort of enclosure much (207 is the better bet IMO) so I'd probably just go for max value on the parallels, starting with the resistor. See how that sounds, and then think about further tweaks if you're still not happy, initially with the inductor.
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