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Old 16th August 2006, 11:01 AM   #1
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was bored this morning, found some old full-range drivers from some car speakers (PYE i think) and put them in some OB's (of an old chest of draws).

WOW, they sound great, cant play that loud but apart from a slight hiss in the background they sound very musical and fun!

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i think i will definatley go OB for a cost saving option, mabye look into the pioneer B20, although that needs a tweeter, any other full-rangers that are relatively cheap.

the B20's are from parts express, any idea how much shipping would be for a pair to the UK?
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Old 16th August 2006, 11:22 AM   #2
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would cost me 65.60 for 2xB20's and 2xPiezo tweeters inc delivery to the UK, would i have to pay import taxes?

would cost 91 just for the B20 drivers from my nearest dealer in europe (excluding delivery)
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Old 16th August 2006, 11:49 AM   #3
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Hi, yup you'll pay 11% import tax IIRC plus 17.5% VAT, and an additional 13.50 if you have the misfortune of Parcelforce dealing with internal postage (i.e. sent by USPS).

From within the EU, you shouldn't be paying any of the above (VAT aside).

Did you end up trying the FR125s' in OB before you sold them?
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Old 16th August 2006, 11:54 AM   #4
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no i didnt try them in OB, wish i had now, even for a play, oh well, want somthing that is a bit more sensitive though...

including both the taxes and even parcelforce, it would turn out just under 100 for the 2xB20's and 2xPeizo's!
looks like it will be cheaper than getting them from europe (Spectrum Audio).

if i did get them, could i point the peizo up or backwards on the OB?

on a difffernt point, these quick Ob's that i have made, they dont actually suffer from a total lack of bass, i have dound that it just works somehow
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including both the taxes and even parcelforce, it would turn out just under 100 for the 2xB20's and 2xPeizo's!
looks like it will be cheaper than getting them from europe (Spectrum Audio).
With the dollar week against the pound atm, there's even more reason to buy from the U.S instead of Europe. I bought some Seas Millenium tweeters from Zalytron in the U.S and including all the tax hits and Parcelforce thievery, I still made a saving of about 60 over buying from Wilmslow Audio - more thieving &^$&"*$.

Plus, there's always the chance they could skip your parcel at customs and you won't have to pay anything on it. It's happened a few time to me on packages in excess of 100 (albeit from Canada).
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Old 16th August 2006, 12:04 PM   #6
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just thinking that would i ever want more than the one B20 in the OB, (one would have to be rolled off) as they are so cheap (12 each ) and would be cheaper to get them all in one....
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Old 16th August 2006, 12:45 PM   #7
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you may want to look at the Monacor SP-200MX/8

or the Beyma 8AG/N.

both are available in EU, relatively cheap and known to work very well in OB

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yeah, looked at those, put off by the 1mm of xmax on the monacor, the beyma one looks better, 2mm but with 96dB, although both dont have as low fs as the pioneer, anybody used any of these in OB?

although with the higher fs, they should go louder with less distortion (as a general rule?)?
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Old 16th August 2006, 01:03 PM   #9
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but then the Pioneer has a low QTS, so it'll be hard to get much bass either way.
I don't know much about OB, but with Xbaffle you should be able to model the response.

Linkwitzlab should be a good resource to get some understanding of Dipol systems.

also, an xmax > 10mm is theoreticaly fine, but you will get hell of a distortion in the mid and upper frequencies when you run them fullrange - you might have noticed that from your FR125 when playing them loud.

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i dont know why i am fretting about bass really, aslong as i get some im fine, i have a sub so it isnt really that much of a problem.

from people's experience, which of these will be the best in OB then, what about the omnes audio L8 aswell?

http://www.spectrumaudio.de/breit/om...dioL8spec.html
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