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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: near Hamburg Germany
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a new project is ready
the trombone, a double horn using the effect of membran movement interlacing and horn mouth distance, down to 38 Hz with driver resonances of 135 Hz ??!! http://www.hm-moreart.de/105.htm any comments?
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
I can't work out what happens to the terminus of the front horn, does this radiate out of the top ? or simply join the other horn at this point ? confusing.......... The two drivers Fs should be lower than 130Hz and Qts < 0.6. The loading of the horn appears to be effective down to 40Hz. /sreten.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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It happens!
I can´t help it it is nearly the same listenable effect like the SAXOPHON. measurements follows. The diagram shows single simulations, how looks the sum of it? Yes, 2 oktaven below the resonance frequenz, it might change the rules in future. If it works, nobody needs 2-4 way constructions any longer.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
I now get it I think, the front horn exits via the slots in the cabinet sides ? /sreten.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chinook Country.Alberta
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similar to a design I have started in some respects, thankfully I have prior art and emails to proove.(not so lucky with the "spiral horn mathematics" though)
Double tuned horns are quite interesting..how do yours sound..
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Interesting. Ok, so it's a bipole horn with differential tuning for each driver.(?) Wouldn't the out of phase resonances cancel each other out, creating a comb effect? What am I missing (besides an understanding of horn theory)?
max
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: near Hamburg Germany
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Nanook,
only dynamic is weeker as the Saxophon, the sound is more astonishing as the Sax, a new acoustic door is opened. measurements follows. maxro, if you miss my horn-understanding ask your question, and look my side. How works a alphorn or a kontrafagott etc.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Germany
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The concept of filling in one comb filter with another seems interesting. But you need to proove it - at least with some simulation at listening distance. That cone movement diagram doesn´t satisfy really.
Did you think about taking out one driver at ~200 Hz? Rudolf
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Hallo Rudolph,
how looks the sum of the single movement simulations? the measurements next week will show. The drivers are so close to each other that you listen more to a toriodic system. The simus show no bass below 70 Hz and 10 dB to much at >200 Hz, the measurements will show the opposite, the same as the SAXOPHON.
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