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Old 2nd May 2006, 05:49 PM   #1
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hello all, my fist post (bar introductions)... I've been working for the last couple of weeks on a pair of Nagaoka super-swans, using some FE108eSigmas which I picked up on a recent trip to Akihabara (tokyo), I know that ideally they should be the special edition 108s for the super swan but it seems that the eSigs are good for this design too. I haven't had much chance to play in the drivers yet so they sound pretty awful (I couldn't help trying them in the swans which in the workshop sound doubly terrible, but hopefully they'll start to sound better in a while.
I did a variation on the head of the speakers which is like a pretty smart looking commercial design in japan, but it's purely cosmetic to try to improve that all important WAF.
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Old 2nd May 2006, 06:18 PM   #2
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very cool. keep us posted with progress and more picts. nice build job.
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Old 2nd May 2006, 06:45 PM   #3
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thanks, I'll try to get some better looking pics than that (my first try). These speakers are my first build, so I'm kinda proud about the way they look. Hopefully they'll sound ok when worn in and with the charlize t-amp I'm working on this evening.
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Old 2nd May 2006, 10:16 PM   #4
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Looking good to me. Nice head treatment. I look forward to hearing your listening impressions once they're completed.
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Old 3rd May 2006, 08:07 AM   #5
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I borrowed the head treatment from
here, but I didn't go for the extra reinforcements which seem more needed with the bigger magnet of the special edition drivers.
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Old 3rd May 2006, 08:41 PM   #6
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Congratulations!

Unlike most I think they look kinda cool, but in an unconventional way ;^))). My buddy who lived in Japan for 3 years sez Swanns are a fav for diyers in Japan. Something about a single 4" doing everything. I heard a pair at the CES Fostex room years ago and they sounded great, better than many $$$ mega monoliths. Perhaps, less is more.

Where in Akihabara did you buy the 108Es? Were the SE edtions still available (if so how much and where)?

Thanks for sharing and keep us posted on your progress.
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Old 3rd May 2006, 09:08 PM   #7
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Those are absolutely stunning, particularly with the head mod.
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Old 4th May 2006, 11:36 AM   #8
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I got the eSigs at Kimura Musen on the fourth floor of Radio Kaikan. If they'd had the special edition ones I'd have got them for sure - I had heard some in a friend's super swans in rural Kagawa - sadly they're now unavailable and I believe they go for quite high prices second hand in Japan. I hope they'll sound as good as you heard them... They are popular in Japan, and they were favourites of Nagaoka who used them as reference speakers for testing hi-fi (although that perhaps speaks more to their ability to show up weaknesses in the chain than quality in themselves...)
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Those look excellent but it's a wonder that he called them swans - swan coffins maybe...
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Old 4th May 2006, 10:38 PM   #10
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ropie, shhhh, I've only just persuaded the wife that they're OK... (select apropriate smilly...)
I played them via my new charlize and an ipod today and with some Charlie Mingus they sounded quite sweet. Obviously there's not much serious base, which is OK for jazz, (and I haven't played with placement at all yet to maximise what's there) and a bit harsh in treble still, but even so they sound quite cohesive and involving already. the other guys at college (where the speakers are at the moment) are starting to get interested - had a few offers to make more of them, but I'm not sure the college technician would appreciate repeating the cutting list again for me...
My only concern is the extent to which I have to use the ipod volume to supplement that of the charlize which worries me for line level sources, but they're in a big studio space now and maybe that won't be a problem when I get them home.
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