Veravox 7x

one1speed · 19th April 2006, 10:24 PM

I wanted to put a little info together on the Veravox 7x I received. In a nutshell, I’m impressed and glad I took the leap.

I’ve had them running in for a week and a half, but have to say that they are the first speaker I’ve had that have sounded great out of the box. A little boomy at first, but that subsided after just a couple hours.

I have them mounted OB, with an LCY-110 on top, though have to admit that a supertweeter isn’t an absolute with these.

They don’t make a lot of low bass, but plenty to get down to sub level. I think I have mine rolling in around 60 hz or so. Baffle is about 30” x 48”.

The first thing I noticed when I hooked them up was that my soundstage that had disappeared with the 168E Sigma and 166ES-R came back in spades. It was almost scary, like I had hooked a SET am back up.

I’m not sure what it is that makes them so special, but perhaps the lack of whizzer cone or vented pole piece? I’m not sure. They are well built, though the cast frame isn’t quite as beefy as the Sigmas. Compared to the Fostex, these seem to be a different line of thinking.

You’ll note that they do have a double magnet assembly. I’m not sure if it’s two magnets working together or shielded, but not sure I care too much at this point.

I took the opportunity to turn them up a little the other day, as the neighbors were out. I was blown away and how clean they sound. Really nice and undistorted. The LCY seems a tad less efficient, but when turned up, they seemed more inline. Right now, I have 1.72 uf worth of caps on the LCY and they sound pretty good. I will experiment with that more in the future.

I am posting a grouping of picts below. A pretty sharp driver that I think can hold it’s own at it’s price point pretty easily, though I’ve hardly heard everything.

If it matters, I’m powering these with a 40w Gainclone, built by the same guy who designed the Patek amp, as this was a prototype of the Audio Zone Amp-1. Enjoy!

one1speed · 19th April 2006, 10:25 PM

Another image. Sorry for the quality, but it was really hard to get these small enough, even with a lot of compression...

ScottG · 19th April 2006, 11:34 PM

A VERY nice driver.. Had I know these (and the 5S and 5X) were still available then I never would have purchased the 166 ESR's. (Hmm, perhaps I should lop-off the whizzer?)

one1speed · 20th April 2006, 01:25 PM

Illusus said he took his off and found they deliver quite a bit more detail. Note that he's using the phase plugs from Dave, (planet 10) as well.

Scottmoose · 20th April 2006, 02:36 PM

Phase plugs first. Think about cropping the whizzer later. Bit drastic, that. (Says me -a person who dislikes whizzers)

one1speed · 20th April 2006, 03:54 PM

One more note, removing the whizzer removes a lot of treble. Illusus said he think it rolls off somewhere around 7k.

Cheers!

jimmyd53 · 20th April 2006, 04:31 PM

Who is the US distributor for Veravox? Thanks

James

one1speed · 20th April 2006, 05:31 PM

I got mine from Solen of Canada, www.solen.ca.

Norris Wilson · 20th April 2006, 07:35 PM

Hi one1speed,

I am happy to hear that the Veravox 7X drivers are helping you to enjoy the music.

You mentioned that the LCY 110 super tweeter seemed a little less efficient than the Veravox.

Have you had an opportunity to experiment with different crossover points yet?

The Veravox has a fairly high frequency roll off. Possibly you could try crossing the LCY tweeters over above 10kHz.

Or, do you feel that you are not getting enough treble information?

Please let us know how this works out.

And congratulations on your quality speaker purchase, they look great.

Norris Wilson

one1speed · 20th April 2006, 08:18 PM

Norris

Thanks for the thoughts. I have messed with the crossover a bit, started with 1 uf and now I'm at 1.72. I may go a touch more and add .1uf. I think it's close.

I had thought I would hear more of the LCY, as it's a bit subtle on all recordings, regardless of quality. I have to wonder if it's the caps taking the efficiency down a touch. And, I wonder if that will balance out once I get everything on the final baffle, as I'll have a cap on the 7x as well. If it balances out, I may even try a coil on the 7x and bringing in the LCY at 6k with the crossover LCY recommended. This also brings up the sensitivity to 95 db on teh LCY according to what they sent me. I was hoping to keep things a bit simpler than that, but it may make sense to take full advantage of the LCY.

I remember reading a report of the Fostex 208E Sig in the Fostex horn that Fostex had set up at a show. It was receiving raves. But when someone went and took a closer look, they realized the 208 was rolled off and there was a more substantial crossover in place than expected on the 208 and the horn supertweet. I believe TCain recommends a third order on the horn supertweets. Something to think about.

Cheers.

19th April 2006, 11:34 PM	#3
ScottG diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: US	A VERY nice driver.. Had I know these (and the 5S and 5X) were still available then I never would have purchased the 166 ESR's. (Hmm, perhaps I should lop-off the whizzer?) __________________ perspective is everything

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20th April 2006, 01:25 PM	#4
one1speed diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ohio	Illusus said he took his off and found they deliver quite a bit more detail. Note that he's using the phase plugs from Dave, (planet 10) as well.

20th April 2006, 02:36 PM	#5
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	Phase plugs first. Think about cropping the whizzer later. Bit drastic, that. (Says me -a person who dislikes whizzers)

20th April 2006, 03:54 PM	#6
one1speed diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ohio	One more note, removing the whizzer removes a lot of treble. Illusus said he think it rolls off somewhere around 7k. Cheers!

20th April 2006, 04:31 PM	#7
jimmyd53 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: EUGENE, OREGON	Who is the US distributor for Veravox? Thanks James

20th April 2006, 05:31 PM	#8
one1speed diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ohio	I got mine from Solen of Canada, www.solen.ca.

20th April 2006, 07:35 PM	#9
Norris Wilson diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2004	Hi one1speed, I am happy to hear that the Veravox 7X drivers are helping you to enjoy the music. You mentioned that the LCY 110 super tweeter seemed a little less efficient than the Veravox. Have you had an opportunity to experiment with different crossover points yet? The Veravox has a fairly high frequency roll off. Possibly you could try crossing the LCY tweeters over above 10kHz. Or, do you feel that you are not getting enough treble information? Please let us know how this works out. And congratulations on your quality speaker purchase, they look great. Norris Wilson

20th April 2006, 08:18 PM	#10
one1speed diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ohio	Norris Thanks for the thoughts. I have messed with the crossover a bit, started with 1 uf and now I'm at 1.72. I may go a touch more and add .1uf. I think it's close. I had thought I would hear more of the LCY, as it's a bit subtle on all recordings, regardless of quality. I have to wonder if it's the caps taking the efficiency down a touch. And, I wonder if that will balance out once I get everything on the final baffle, as I'll have a cap on the 7x as well. If it balances out, I may even try a coil on the 7x and bringing in the LCY at 6k with the crossover LCY recommended. This also brings up the sensitivity to 95 db on teh LCY according to what they sent me. I was hoping to keep things a bit simpler than that, but it may make sense to take full advantage of the LCY. I remember reading a report of the Fostex 208E Sig in the Fostex horn that Fostex had set up at a show. It was receiving raves. But when someone went and took a closer look, they realized the 208 was rolled off and there was a more substantial crossover in place than expected on the 208 and the horn supertweet. I believe TCain recommends a third order on the horn supertweets. Something to think about. Cheers.