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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Hi!
I want to put all of you into a delicate situation.To choose from Fertin 20s or Supravox 215s bicone.All 8"drivers. I want you to come with more details about these two superdrivers,compare them,frecvency response,linearity and sound and finally a note from 0 to 5.
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Romania
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Well, I must say I am pretty intersted in this discusion too...
I am thinking at the same thing for a while, and I guess that Fertin would better the bicones in the upper frequencies (just because I know that wizzer cones are not that good)... But again, maybe you should tell what cabinet are you going to use for them...for example I was thinking at an open baffle (wich nevertheless qualefies both of them because of the Qts..) |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Romania
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sorry, my mistake. I was thinking at another driver (the 165 from Supravox). The Fertin has a wizzer cone too. Back to the place we've started ... |
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Yes!
An OB I was thinking me to,but also on a Voigt or ML TQWT. I have same opinion about the whizzer but seems Fertin is best in highs and sparkle,detail over Supravox. Maybe he isn't?
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bavarian Forest
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Blackforest Audio have modified Fertins with higher Qts and different whizzer. The "Helix to Heaven" once got a very good test in a German magazine. They probably didn`t make this with the frequency response of the standard version you can see at Spectrumaudio. Maybe you can get FR graphs from Mr. Kühn.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Romania
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Well...no one can tell us more about these drivers?....
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I bought a pair of Fertins (20EX with all upgrades) in December, but didn't have time to install them yet. When I do, I will certainly post some comments.
They certainly know how to package them properly:
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UK
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Given the fact they have large quantities of gold on them, do you think these will be at their best playing the Electric Light Orchestra's Mr Blue Sky?
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Peter Daniel!
Do you think that improvements adds something new on the driver? Do you listen Supravox,to compare them?
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I have no idea if it adds any improvement, I was gambling here.
Never listened to Supravox either.
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