jordan watts mark 3 modules needing cabinets!

coda · 5th March 2006, 01:45 AM

Er hi all, this is my first post I am a crt projector man so bear with me ok!

I got hold of a pair of jordan watts mark 3 modules. I need a lot of advice upon designing a cabinet for them. I went to the new jordan website and saw the konus designs which looked good but these are different speaker. Could anyone give me any advice on cabinet construction for them they seem to be quite powerful for full range drivers, 20 watts rms 40 watts peak 16 ohms if that is useful.

I will not pretent to know anything about this sort of thing but after listening to many speakers I wanted a pair of full range and this seemed a good pair to start with. Thanks for any help.

Jonathan Bright · 5th March 2006, 05:59 AM

Hi Coda, I've got a few things on the J-Watts including a couple of designs. I have no scanner but if you email me I'll post you copies of what I have. Contact me at bright@gil.com.au Jonathan Bright

soongsc · 5th March 2006, 01:05 PM

Add a tweeter from 10K~40K. I recently measured mine and it cuts off suddenly at 10K.

coda · 7th March 2006, 07:25 AM

any advice on the crossover I should use for it if I added a tweeter ?

Colin · 8th March 2006, 10:16 AM

The original Jordan Watts brochure had vented and IB cabinet designs and a suggested x-over for adding a super-tweeter. I have a copy of this so could scan and email if you wish (though this may be what Jonathan is sending you). From memory, I think the circuit was a single cap to attach a Coles or Celestion tweeter. There will be better variations now, I'm sure, especially if you investigate ribbons. Allowing the J-W module to roll off naturally seems a good option and would simplify things.

soongsc · 8th March 2006, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by coda
any advice on the crossover I should use for it if I added a tweeter ?

The original Jordan Watts brochure seems to show a 50Ohm variable resistor in series with a 2uF or 1.8uF in series with the tweeter.

Jonathan Bright · 8th March 2006, 06:47 PM

Colin's right about the brochure. The tweeter was a 1" dome (cloth) from Goodmans. DT3 I think. The Jordan-Watts module was supposed to be a completely adequate full range design but the tweeter option is a good one and they were never going to shake the house down at the bass end with only 4" diameter. I've tended to think of them as a really good midrange unit. The cone is aluminum. Ted Jordans next model was in titanium.

DAVOhorn · 8th March 2006, 07:03 PM

Dear All,

As an aside i have a pair of extremely rare QED Titanium coned version of the Jordan Watts module which is in a similar sized cabinet to a JUNO.

These are in their original QED boxes.

They sound preferable to the Jordan Watts as i believe the cone is lighter and as a result goes higher in frequency.

This is not the QED company we know and love today.

They are the only pair i have ever heard of so must be extremely rare.

regards David

coda · 8th March 2006, 08:03 PM

Thanks for all your help gents I am just getting my mind around it all now!

I will update you all on anything I do by the way no one has told me if these speaker are any good lol. I have listened to them and they are very clear but I cannot see how you can get substantial bass output from them, also the tweeter seems a good idea so i will probably go with that.

soongsc · 9th March 2006, 12:21 AM

I have enjoyed them for over 20 years, never had the time to really get better performance out of them. Sounds like a good spare time task. I would consider recalculating the alinement and see how they compare with the brochure instaed of just going by it.

The glue used in the Jordan Watts do degrade over time. Mine has the yellowish glue that looks like contact glue for the cap.

5th March 2006, 01:45 AM	#1
coda diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: london	jordan watts mark 3 modules needing cabinets! Er hi all, this is my first post I am a crt projector man so bear with me ok! I got hold of a pair of jordan watts mark 3 modules. I need a lot of advice upon designing a cabinet for them. I went to the new jordan website and saw the konus designs which looked good but these are different speaker. Could anyone give me any advice on cabinet construction for them they seem to be quite powerful for full range drivers, 20 watts rms 40 watts peak 16 ohms if that is useful. I will not pretent to know anything about this sort of thing but after listening to many speakers I wanted a pair of full range and this seemed a good pair to start with. Thanks for any help.

5th March 2006, 05:59 AM	#2
Jonathan Bright diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Queensland	Hi Coda, I've got a few things on the J-Watts including a couple of designs. I have no scanner but if you email me I'll post you copies of what I have. Contact me at bright@gil.com.au Jonathan Bright __________________ "It was the Springtime of the year when aunt is calling to aunt like mastodons bellowing across primeval swamps." P.G. Wodehouse.

5th March 2006, 01:05 PM	#3
soongsc diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Taiwan	Add a tweeter from 10K~40K. I recently measured mine and it cuts off suddenly at 10K. __________________ Hear the real thing!

7th March 2006, 07:25 AM	#4
coda diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: london	sound good any advice on the crossover I should use for it if I added a tweeter ?

8th March 2006, 06:47 PM	#7
Jonathan Bright diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Queensland	Colin's right about the brochure. The tweeter was a 1" dome (cloth) from Goodmans. DT3 I think. The Jordan-Watts module was supposed to be a completely adequate full range design but the tweeter option is a good one and they were never going to shake the house down at the bass end with only 4" diameter. I've tended to think of them as a really good midrange unit. The cone is aluminum. Ted Jordans next model was in titanium. __________________ "It was the Springtime of the year when aunt is calling to aunt like mastodons bellowing across primeval swamps." P.G. Wodehouse.


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8th March 2006, 10:16 AM	#5
Colin diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003	The original Jordan Watts brochure had vented and IB cabinet designs and a suggested x-over for adding a super-tweeter. I have a copy of this so could scan and email if you wish (though this may be what Jonathan is sending you). From memory, I think the circuit was a single cap to attach a Coles or Celestion tweeter. There will be better variations now, I'm sure, especially if you investigate ribbons. Allowing the J-W module to roll off naturally seems a good option and would simplify things.

8th March 2006, 07:03 PM	#8
DAVOhorn diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	re Jordan Watts Dear All, As an aside i have a pair of extremely rare QED Titanium coned version of the Jordan Watts module which is in a similar sized cabinet to a JUNO. These are in their original QED boxes. They sound preferable to the Jordan Watts as i believe the cone is lighter and as a result goes higher in frequency. This is not the QED company we know and love today. They are the only pair i have ever heard of so must be extremely rare. regards David __________________ regards David

8th March 2006, 08:03 PM	#9
coda diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: london	Thanks for all your help gents I am just getting my mind around it all now! I will update you all on anything I do by the way no one has told me if these speaker are any good lol. I have listened to them and they are very clear but I cannot see how you can get substantial bass output from them, also the tweeter seems a good idea so i will probably go with that.

9th March 2006, 12:21 AM	#10
soongsc diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Taiwan	I have enjoyed them for over 20 years, never had the time to really get better performance out of them. Sounds like a good spare time task. I would consider recalculating the alinement and see how they compare with the brochure instaed of just going by it. The glue used in the Jordan Watts do degrade over time. Mine has the yellowish glue that looks like contact glue for the cap. __________________ Hear the real thing!

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