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Old 29th January 2006, 02:12 PM   #11
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I repeat, its been experienced and it creates a problem with image focus. It MUST be adressed.

If you had any idea how wrong this is when it comes to very many other music lovers, you would be astonished ritght out of your mind.
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You mean trivial or important?
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Old 29th January 2006, 05:28 PM   #13
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Anyway in this thread there was a specific question about an offset in height. I had the experience and I gave a real answer. As to how much it amounts to the general audiophile public, I guess its another story.
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Old 31st January 2006, 06:19 PM   #14
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Okay. I've had these speakers together for a couple of days. I have listened with one driver 1cm higher and have listened with adjusted stands (drivers level). Both sound the same and imaging seems stable. I really appreciate everyone's comments and help with this.

In terms of sound quality, the FE206E in bass reflex seems to exibit all the qualities that others have noticed, especially lack of bass from 60 to 80. My girlfriend commented on the brightness and suggested that they sounded like over-blown computer speakers. Anyway, I put a 5ohm Mills resistor on the + terminaland this leveled things out a bit,. I'm driving with a Bryston 3BST, so more resistance may be needed. I'll have to experiment. For now, I think they need to be broken in some more (bought them used, but have no idea how long the studio used them). Pics soon.

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Old 31st January 2006, 08:12 PM   #15
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I had the experience and I gave a real answer. As to how much it amounts to the general audiophile public, I guess its another story.
Yes. Nobody is saying you are the bad guy, just most folks won't notice it much/at all, like rhart hasn't (yet? )

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Old 31st January 2006, 08:50 PM   #16
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I was working with a young fellow making a set of fe127 MLTL. He marked the location for the driver holes in the wrong place. I did not pick it up until we assembled and were beginning the finish. The wood was grain match so I could not make a new cabinet. So to solve the proble I took a piece of contrasting wood and made a face plate for each cabinet. It worked well and create a nice accent feature.

Nelson Pass has written some very good advise about making the Fostex drivers sound upto their potential .I recommend you get a copy of the AudioxPress where he talks about current sources and filters for full range drivers. His work has helped to get the best from this and other Fostex drivers.
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Aristotle, more than any other thinker, determined the orientation and the content of Western intellectual history. He was the author of a philosophical and scientific system that through the centuries became the support and vehicle for both medieval Christian and Islamic scholastic thought: until the end of the 17th century, Western culture was Aristotelian. And, even after the intellectual revolutions of centuries to follow, Aristotelian concepts and ideas remained embedded in Western thinking.

In fact in Prior Analytics Aristotle proposed the now famous Aristotelian syllogistic, a form of argument consisting of two premises and a conclusion. His example is:-

(i) Every Greek is a person.
(ii) Every person is mortal.
(iii) Every Greek is mortal.


So I would think:

(i) Every audiophile is a person.
(ii) Every person gains experience with time.
(iii) Every audiophile needs time.

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just most folks won't notice it much/at all, like rhart hasn't (yet? )
The 'yet' word is the key and you put it in a nutshell.
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I was working with a young fellow making a set of fe127 MLTL. He marked the location for the driver holes in the wrong place. I did not pick it up until we assembled and were beginning the finish. The wood was grain match so I could not make a new cabinet. So to solve the proble I took a piece of contrasting wood and made a face plate for each cabinet. It worked well and create a nice accent feature.

Nelson Pass has written some very good advise about making the Fostex drivers sound upto their potential .I recommend you get a copy of the AudioxPress where he talks about current sources and filters for full range drivers. His work has helped to get the best from this and other Fostex drivers.
Good luck

Thanks. I'll look into Nelson Pass stuff. Also, you're in Campbell River. Beautiful. I lived in Victoria while doing my BA and MA before moving to Toronto for my PhD. Can't wait to get back to the Island.

As far as Stocker's and Salas' discussion: While I'm not interested in the Classics (a friend of mine did write a book about moral codes in Antiquity though and I keep promising to read it), I do have some experience with audiophile-related stuff. I may notice a difference in the future as I get use to the new speakers, as they break in, and as I experiment with different configurations and different amps. I appreciate the debate; best way to learn something is to discuss and argue...

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I was working with a young fellow making a set of fe127 MLTL. He marked the location for the driver holes in the wrong place. I did not pick it up until we assembled and were beginning the finish. The wood was grain match so I could not make a new cabinet. So to solve the proble I took a piece of contrasting wood and made a face plate for each cabinet. It worked well and create a nice accent feature.
I've gotten those same speakers built as far as the MDF glued together and speakers put on(though I put NSB's in them). I'm waiting for warmer weather to finish them. If you hadn't said that the face plate was to fix a goof, I'd never had known. I love the look of them the way they are!

I'm still working on NSB's for practice. Once I've built another 2-3 sets of speakers (building different types each time), and am confident with my skills, I'll move on to more expensive drivers.

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