kmj,
Take a look at:
http://www.commonsenseaudio.com/comparison.html
I didn't yet have a chance to listen to them...
Alain.
Take a look at:
http://www.commonsenseaudio.com/comparison.html
I didn't yet have a chance to listen to them...
Alain.
kmj said:Alain Dupont
Thanks, but specs doesn't tell my much i'm sorry to say.... So if someone has acually heard them feel free to tell me
Edit.
They didn´t compare specs for the 168EZsigma. (missed a "Z" earlier)
the AN speakers are mid-q (read as suited to bass reflex , TL etc ) speakers vs. the low q (suitable for horn loading) fostex 168EZ, 166E etc ...
from vague reading (search audioroundtable.com), they were decent sounding at best, nothing truly exceptional
YMMV
FE168 sigma (first model without E) is an excelent driver
wery fast with god bass responce for the full range driver
not so expencive but maybe it is harder to find "old" model...
actualy the driver is cheep for the perfomance...
As I am remember I simulate the driver in a folded voigt cabinet
results was more then excelent if we can say so...
The cabinet was very elegant (not big) and bass respose was great.
In the top end You can expect not less then curves shows.
Double cone effect can be avoided by dumping around with wool or something light.
I listened to cheeper model of FE167 in the mass loaded cabinet with 5W single ended was great for the about 60 usd cost per driver,
of course FE168sigma is much better driver...
I suggest to go to FE168sigma if You can
wery fast with god bass responce for the full range driver
not so expencive but maybe it is harder to find "old" model...
actualy the driver is cheep for the perfomance...
As I am remember I simulate the driver in a folded voigt cabinet
results was more then excelent if we can say so...
The cabinet was very elegant (not big) and bass respose was great.
In the top end You can expect not less then curves shows.
Double cone effect can be avoided by dumping around with wool or something light.
I listened to cheeper model of FE167 in the mass loaded cabinet with 5W single ended was great for the about 60 usd cost per driver,
of course FE168sigma is much better driver...
I suggest to go to FE168sigma if You can
Hmm, it seems like I have to make up my mind if i'm going to build a pair of budgetspeakers or spend some more cash....
The cabinet will cost about 1/3 of the pair of sigmadrivers, Audionirvana 1/2 of the sigmas. However, as long as the AN-drivers are OK they should be worth testing. I read some of the opinions but found most comments to be about their estetics or the material of the magnet and as long as the result is good I really don't care if the magnet is metallic or polymer....
One could test the AN-drivers and use untill one gets fed up with them and then invest in a new pair, that way you'll have the next project basicly for free.
Damn, all these choices
The cabinet will cost about 1/3 of the pair of sigmadrivers, Audionirvana 1/2 of the sigmas. However, as long as the AN-drivers are OK they should be worth testing. I read some of the opinions but found most comments to be about their estetics or the material of the magnet and as long as the result is good I really don't care if the magnet is metallic or polymer....
One could test the AN-drivers and use untill one gets fed up with them and then invest in a new pair, that way you'll have the next project basicly for free.
Damn, all these choices
Kmj,
I ordered 2 * Audio Nirvana 6.5" yesterday to install in a OmegaTL
following the AudioXpress article "Omega QuarterWave Reflex" from: Rick Schultz
Ill put up the calculus and drawings soon...
It's the simplest design to test them...
Followed by a design by P. Valarcher with 2 stacked enclosures with vents for 145 lit
Plus other ideas like BL-Horn and the must !! a Replikon
In the mean time I will finish my Integrated Stereo SE 6C33C-B
Good luck with your projects...
Alain.
I ordered 2 * Audio Nirvana 6.5" yesterday to install in a OmegaTL
following the AudioXpress article "Omega QuarterWave Reflex" from: Rick Schultz
Ill put up the calculus and drawings soon...
It's the simplest design to test them...
Followed by a design by P. Valarcher with 2 stacked enclosures with vents for 145 lit
Plus other ideas like BL-Horn and the must !! a Replikon
In the mean time I will finish my Integrated Stereo SE 6C33C-B
Good luck with your projects...
Alain.
The 8 and 6.5 inch Audio Nirvanas sat on our floor for a while
but finally made it into the system. They are quite good,
and hold up at the extreme top, although they seem to need
some subtle equalization of the shelving variety to balance it all
out. I'm going to put in more time with them to get the response
where I want it, and I'll let you know what I get.
In the meantime, I think they're worth the effort at the price,
for those of you who have been sitting on the fence.
but finally made it into the system. They are quite good,
and hold up at the extreme top, although they seem to need
some subtle equalization of the shelving variety to balance it all
out. I'm going to put in more time with them to get the response
where I want it, and I'll let you know what I get.
In the meantime, I think they're worth the effort at the price,
for those of you who have been sitting on the fence.
Nelson,
Thanks to enlighten this thread. And Yes afordable they are.
Planet10,
>>OQR = ML-TL (and most of the time less than optimal from sims done)
Yes, but the article of Rick Schultz convinced me to have a try, and as Nelson says
they will need a little tweak, but the global inside volume 11"*11"*52 has very good WAF acceptance ; compared to the 2 stacked enclosures with vents for 145 lit each,
then a Replikon would get both WAF and little volume... Roemild gave me advise
length : 0,9 m ; mouth area : 80cm² ; opening area : 55*35 cm
driver volume : 20-25 liters (just a guess) Worth a try...
And leave the "sims" ; "welcome to the real world!" { Matrix: Morpheous to Neo}
Zoran,
FE168sigma didn't find one...Only FE168EZ available... the > 5K is tricky...
What ever the Audio Nirvana 6.5" gives they will make 2 decent little bookshelf
speakers ; a good gift for Christmas!!!
The Supravox 215 RTF 64 Bicône will be next, I got a chance to listen to
one just out of the box, without baffle ; wouahhh !!!
Plus, there is now a Supravox importer in Quebec
Regards.
Thanks to enlighten this thread. And Yes afordable they are.
Planet10,
>>OQR = ML-TL (and most of the time less than optimal from sims done)
Yes, but the article of Rick Schultz convinced me to have a try, and as Nelson says
they will need a little tweak, but the global inside volume 11"*11"*52 has very good WAF acceptance ; compared to the 2 stacked enclosures with vents for 145 lit each,
then a Replikon would get both WAF and little volume... Roemild gave me advise
length : 0,9 m ; mouth area : 80cm² ; opening area : 55*35 cm
driver volume : 20-25 liters (just a guess) Worth a try...
And leave the "sims" ; "welcome to the real world!" { Matrix: Morpheous to Neo}
Zoran,
FE168sigma didn't find one...Only FE168EZ available... the > 5K is tricky...
What ever the Audio Nirvana 6.5" gives they will make 2 decent little bookshelf
speakers ; a good gift for Christmas!!!
The Supravox 215 RTF 64 Bicône will be next, I got a chance to listen to
one just out of the box, without baffle ; wouahhh !!!
Plus, there is now a Supravox importer in Quebec
Regards.
Hi,
Just received my 2 * Audio Nirvana 6.5" this morning,
they are plugged on the Old NAD 350, wouah...
They will work 2/3 full days for break-in , but frankly I think this
will give life to a beautifull set of speakers...
Form first listening directly on the floor, beautifull mid-range and heights.
See you in a few days...
Regards.
Alain.
Just received my 2 * Audio Nirvana 6.5" this morning,
they are plugged on the Old NAD 350, wouah...
They will work 2/3 full days for break-in , but frankly I think this
will give life to a beautifull set of speakers...
Form first listening directly on the floor, beautifull mid-range and heights.
See you in a few days...
Regards.
Alain.
kmj,
>> For the "bump" around 2500-5500Hz....
I did break-in the Audio Nirvana 6.1/2" for about 150 hours
of real music. Mostly I was not home at this time...
Yesterday I did a listening test with Stereophile TEST CD 2
using the midrange decade and the trebel decade tracks 17/18
and no, there is no bump in this area...
I have traced the "Omega Quartewave Reflex"
using MDF 19mm plus Maple veneer = 19.5mm
Solid angles with Red maple rounded 3/4"
External dimensions:
width: 9.1/2" {speaker placement}
long: 15.75"
height: 53.1/2"
Driver height: 42.75" ; stuffing 2/3rd upper height.
Internal dimensions:
width: 8"
long: 14.25"
height: 52"
Alain.
>> For the "bump" around 2500-5500Hz....
I did break-in the Audio Nirvana 6.1/2" for about 150 hours
of real music. Mostly I was not home at this time...
Yesterday I did a listening test with Stereophile TEST CD 2
using the midrange decade and the trebel decade tracks 17/18
and no, there is no bump in this area...
I have traced the "Omega Quartewave Reflex"
using MDF 19mm plus Maple veneer = 19.5mm
Solid angles with Red maple rounded 3/4"
External dimensions:
width: 9.1/2" {speaker placement}
long: 15.75"
height: 53.1/2"
Driver height: 42.75" ; stuffing 2/3rd upper height.
Internal dimensions:
width: 8"
long: 14.25"
height: 52"
Alain.
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