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#621 |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Oxfordshire
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Many thanks !
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#622 |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Taiwan
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Recently I set up a small system with OB & 8in fullranger.
![]() The baffle is 90cmW x 120cmH. The offset driver position is determined by the program "Edge". I haven't got any chance to do any measurement, but in the critical midrange, to my ears they are as smooth as predicted. The baffle is standing on their simple feet: ![]() I put some soft close cell foam under the feet to make the system more compliant to the floor. I found this actually reduce the vibration. ![]() The drivers were bought from local audio shop named Colin Sound Lab. I cut their dust caps. I thought of inserting phase plug onto the pole piece. I found a pair of electrolytic caps with perfect diameter. I glued a piece of sheet iron on one end of the cap. However it refused to stay in center of the pole piece, instead, it's induced to the side wall of the voice coil former. Hmmm, maybe I should try a ring instead of a hole circular area.... Anyway, with the dust cap cut off, the lower treble already cleared up a lot. Originally it's a little rough around 2.5k~3k region. Now it's a lot smoother. ![]() ![]() Hehe, and the amp is also "OB" I put 2* RC filters for "baffle step" compensation ahead of 6J5 pre and SE 6H30pi power stage, totally they attenuate 15dB to the mid-high. But it's still not enough, I did additional EQ in the foobar with another 4~5dB. With all these EQ, the balance is now very good, very "full range". |
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To keep the phase plugs from trying to tip over you need to use 2 or 3 spearate pieces of metal. With a single piece, one end of the metal is attracted to the pole piece and the other is repealed. dave
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#624 | |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Buenos Aires
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Actually, what's happening is that the sheet is being attracted to the gap because the attraction to the front of the pole piece is not enough to keep it. The solution is to add magnetic mass so as the attracting force is enough to counter the side-traction. As you say, Dave, to put several pieces of metal, like a gluing a couple of nuts, or screwing a couple of screws will do the trick. Gastón |
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#626 |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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I've used single screws on phase plugs with success. It helps if the screw is recessed into the plug by a few thou.
That pole piece seems to have a centre machined into it. Ideal if it has. A brad driven into the plug with the head left slightly proud, would centre the plug. Geoff. |
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#627 |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Taiwan
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Thanks alot for all the tips on phase plug. I'll keep trying.
About the driver, here are the specs: model name: Colin Sound Lab SP-20 1. 8ˇ¨Full range 2. W fabric surround 3. paper cone 4. paper whizzer 5. 25mm voice coil, paper former 6. coil winding height 4 mm 7. gap width 1.8mm 8. magnetic density > 16000 gauss 9. Gap Height 5mm 10. Fs 45 Hz 11. nominal 8 ohm 12. frequncy range 45 ~ 20000 Hz 13. Qts 0.5 14. SPL 92 dB/w/1m 15. input power 15W max This driver is no longer available. Now there's a SP-20MKII, with bigger magnet and voice coil and a warmer sound. ps. The similarity of CSL (Colin Sound Lab) and my user name CLS is just a coincidence. CLS is the abbreviation of my Chinese name. |
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#628 |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Houston
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the sound is great ! now bass become very very better ( not stronger but more accurate )
Below pic is this boy. Tks n brgds [/B][/QUOTE] When building, you will notice that the more time you give to your speakers to burn-in, the more they'll develop a better sound. Plans please! |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Houston
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#630 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
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here are my steel buschorns more pics coming soon
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