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Old 20th June 2005, 08:36 AM   #11
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A driver has to mate with a box (considering we are talking about small box fullragen drivers here).

if the box is small and you got a hump an aperiodic port can help. what i really does i make the box more lossy.

small drivers like th JX53, ff85K etc. prefer to be XO at 300hz+ (and really shine when XOed at 500Hz+).

5" drivers would offer more bass albeit at the expense of more beaming and rolled of hf that is why some have mated the JX92 with super tweeters above 6k (the GS2 and EB Cantare).

so it may seem that a good 3-4" driver would be the most balanced. Fostex drivers tend to perfrom better than the specs would have you believe and since many of them are designed for horn loading they might be sutiable for near wall placement. However their tonal quality is an acquired taste and for general purpose audio/Ht/av use i have been recommended the JX92 and (very recently) the FR125 over the FX120.

unfortunately Adire or Jordan dont make a 4" (like the FOstex 108 or 103) I suspect if they do it might be the fullrange speaker for most of our needs esp. for those who are thinking of a 1.5 way (like the ELF 1.5).
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Old 20th June 2005, 06:36 PM   #12
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Just to let you all in a little info.
The FR125S,WR125S,WR125ST are designed by (Dan) ADIRE but are a Creative Sound driver.Belongs to CSS.
Dan just designed the driver for Bob at CSS.

Just had to let you know as a lot of people are asking why Adire does not have them listed.


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hey RAW good to see you again.

few Qs.
1. have you compared the FR125 to the JX92?
2. can you use the FR125 in a ML-TL mounted on a wall a la B&W's VM1?
3. I assume those are FR125s in the photo or are they WR125s?
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Old 21st June 2005, 06:33 AM   #14
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NAvin.
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The photo speakers uses the WR not the FR I will not use the FR in a 2 or 3 way as really like the open,detail the ribbon just brings out.
The WR and FR look 100% the same no one will tell the difference.

The FR will sure give the X92S a run for its money no issue there at all.
The X92S I have in the cabinets ported tuned to 55hz and the low end is the only thing the Jordan has over the WR or FR drivers.
Beside from the clear mids on both the WR and FR no contest with the Jordans here and highs out of the WR just stun people who listen to my demo cabinets which are twin post cabinet a set to run the WR fullrange and another that runs the WR and the tweeter along with a network(RAW 1).Well I can never stop watching peoples face time and time agin (just today as a fact for a few more demos) on when people listen to them and then I ask how they sound and then listen to comments 95% say they sound great a small margin say well a little up balanced in the top end.

Well I can hook up the tweeters if you wish!!
NO WAY I here this over and over demo after demo.
Till they get up and put a ear to the tweeter do they all believe that is possible.

And that is just the WR the best I can describe it.
The FR even better!

As for designs.
I will say a wall design is coming fullrange in a few models SOON!

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