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Old 17th May 2005, 10:03 AM   #11
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You could also try Terry Cain's Bigger is Better box, but using the FE166E
Could you give a link for details? I'm wondering what to put my FE166E in.
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Old 17th May 2005, 10:24 AM   #12
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Could you give a link for details? I'm wondering what to put my FE166E in.
The original is here:

http://melhuish.org/audio/DIYTQ8.html

Apparantly these dimensions work OK with drivers up to 6" which, ignoring the surround, the 166E nominally is. Terry informed me these are actually factory Fostex designs in the Craft Manuals, which are tricky to get hold of at present -probably being reprinted.
Any thoughts on altering the dimensions for larger drivers Terry? I deepened mine to 16 1/2" and reduced the height to 64" for the 166E to good effect. Oh -the boxes are bomb-proof when built out of MDF BTW -although you'll put your back out trying to move them!
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Old 17th May 2005, 04:28 PM   #13
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Ok, I'm thinking a bit clearer now. Thanks so far, everyone. I knew this would help.

I would like to try the Buschorn MKII, but which driver? I am choosing this mainly becaue it can go in a smaller room when I get ready to build something else. Plus, it could also be used as a surround, I suppose.

Most mention the "F108" in the Buschorn. Is this the Fe108 Sigma? Is this driver that much different from the Fe103? I was thinking that if I could go with the Fe103, then I would have enough money left over to buy another pair of drivers. Perhaps the Fe166 or Fe167. But which one and which design? This is where I get confused. All these drivers seem so similar that I have a hard time making a distinction.

Bottom line so far: Do I go with the Fe108 sigma in a Buschorn and stop there, or do I get the Fe103 and another pair for larger speakers. Is the better sound of the Fe108 over the Fe103 worth not building two pairs of speakers?

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Old 17th May 2005, 04:37 PM   #14
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There certainly is a marked difference in clarity, and detail between the fe103, and the 108e sigma, which one to go with? I can't really answer that. I guess it depends on if you want to experiment with different drivers, designs, configurations, or just build one good set to last you a while.
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The original is here:

http://melhuish.org/audio/DIYTQ8.html
Is it just me, or do the pictures not work? Brain the size of a planet, and I can't work out what shape/size to make a box...
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Outside box dimensions are 7"x14"x70", is rectangular box.
Driver height from base is 39"
Baffle is centered at 5-1/2" between outer walls and floor of cabinet

The baffle (not to be confused with TC's spheroid driver mount) goes from 5.5" from the bottom and 5.5" from the back wall and goes up to the intersection of the top and front. Top is open.
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Old 17th May 2005, 06:13 PM   #17
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Do I go with the Fe108 sigma in a Buschorn and stop there, or do I get the Fe103 and another pair for larger speakers. Is the better sound of the Fe108 over the Fe103 worth not building two pairs of speakers?
The B-Horn II is actually designed for the FE103 but the FE108ESigma works in it too.... The FE103 in the horn clobbers the FE108ES as far as magnitude of bottom goes. The FE108ES is better everywhere else. It hasn't the minor upper midrange "honk" that the FE103/40-1197/FE108S all have (and that we go to extremes to remove), it has more detail in the midrange and goes higher.

But then you can buy 5 FE103s for the price of a set of FE108ES (and you can always fit 108s later (especially if you make a removable baffle)

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Ok, I've decided. I'm going with the 108 in the Buschorn. I think it's the most flexible option right now, since I don't know exactly what I'm getting into, and since my wife is bass-shy and has more acute hearing than me, I will concentrate on great midrange. I really need her to buy into this before I can pursue this as a hobby. Once I get the drivers, I will play around with some prototypes first and see what happens. Who knows, maybe I will stumble onto something useful (which is usually how I get things done around here).

For the future, I am keenly interested in some of the bigger designs mentioned here.

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I'm going with the 108 in the Buschorn.
Keep us aprised of your progress.

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Old 17th May 2005, 08:06 PM   #20
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Thanks everyone. I will have more questions. I guess I should first learn how to spell Buschhorn. I am now reading through everything I can find on these spekers.

We finally bought a digital camera last month, so I will be able to post pictures...I think...I hope.

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