first FR project

resident · 21st February 2005, 09:00 PM

Hi,

I'm planning to build my first fullrange speakers!

And as this is my first FR project I decided to build something easy and without spending to much money.
So,after a lot of searches in forums I decided to build something
with Fostex drivers.They're not so expensive and they're very good.
Another thought was with Jordan drivers but they're low efficiency stopped my searches.I'd like to drive my speakers with low watt tube amps.
But which Fostex?I thing about the FE206E.
It's an 8"driver so,better bass responce,and also
a lot of diyers claim that they're better than the more expensive FE208E-sigma!So for around 200 euros/pair they're the best choice.
But what kind of enclosure I must choose to build?
As I mention above I'd like to build an easy project so I must choose btw vented,bass reflex,TL or MLTL.
So,what do you say to build Martin King's project 5?
It's a very attractive design and a lot of diyers have build it with good results.(see gallery at Martin's site)
Martin King also mention that it can be upgraded in the future with Lowther drivers!

So?Build them?
Or I have missed something in my searches and there's something better to build with 200 euros?Without the cabinet of cource.

resident · 21st February 2005, 09:02 PM

Martin King's MLTL enclosure.

Ropie · 21st February 2005, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by resident
Or I have missed something in my searches and there's something better to build with 200 euros?Without the cabinet of cource.

Not necessarily better, but certainly worth considering as it's fairly simple, well within your budget and sounds really great (and has upgradeability

):

http://www.geocities.com/northbirdte...hhorn_mkii.htm

resident · 21st February 2005, 09:41 PM

There's a problem with your link!I can't visit the page.

GM · 21st February 2005, 10:38 PM

Just worked fine for me.

GM

Cyburgs · 21st February 2005, 11:08 PM

Have you had a look at the "Viech"?

Beyma 8AG/N horn or "the Viech"

They have high efficiency (96dB/W/m), are fairly easy to build and cost about 150 Euros/pair!

If you want to stay with the Fostexes, I would recommend the FE206E in a Jericho horn enclosure. Very nice speaker, that.

Nice greetings, Berndt

resident · 22nd February 2005, 07:06 AM

Ok,Ropie's link works well now for me.Maybe a problem with my connection....
Isn't it (+Viech and Jericho) more complicated than the MLTLs?

MLTL enclosure is just four pieces of wood stick them together!

Or BR!Like Fostex recommended enclosure.That is what I mean easy.Maybe my reference to TL has confused you.Sorry for that.

Ropie · 22nd February 2005, 09:15 AM

If you can stick four pieces of wood together accurately then it is really not too much more trouble to stick twenty four (smaller) pieces together accurately. I've made simple TLs from a kit and my own Buschhorns - the TL kit took me two weeks, the BHorns took me two days. Do a search for Buschhorn in Google - there are quite a few examples (including my own). And you might find they work fine for you without the notch filter.

However, I wouldn't want to put you off designing the TL as they can be really great speakers. BTW, those Viechs look like a good project too!

Timn8ter · 22nd February 2005, 03:39 PM

I'm inclined to recommend a BLH for the FE206E which with it's rising FR it is well suited for. The Fostex recommended enclosure shouldn't be too tough. It looks harder than it really is.
My FE206e Experiences

resident · 22nd February 2005, 09:49 PM

Sorry that I didn't notice that I won't build the enclosures!

I don't have the time for that and the required tools to work with.

I'll order them from a local industry.If I'll order a simple enclosure the money won't be too much but if the woodworker see the schems of the BLH,the BHhorn,the Jericho or even the more simple Viech he will start to

.
Some months ago maybe a year I have ordered from him to build me the enclosuresof the Ariels

I don't remember how much he wants to build them.And then I ask from him to build me the enclosures of the more simple,the Ariel ME2.
So my project are not only 200 euros.But,plus the enclosure.That's why I decided to build Martin King's MLTL enclosure.I think the woodworker will spend only a few hours to build them.They're more simple than the Ariel ME2 are!

If I'm happy with Fostex,then I'llgo with Lowther or...I don't know but with something better than the Fostex.And then I'll decide with which horn I'll go.
So now I'd like to find a simple enclosure to keep the budget at low levels.

21st February 2005, 09:00 PM	#1
resident Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Earth	first FR project Hi, I'm planning to build my first fullrange speakers! And as this is my first FR project I decided to build something easy and without spending to much money. So,after a lot of searches in forums I decided to build something with Fostex drivers.They're not so expensive and they're very good. Another thought was with Jordan drivers but they're low efficiency stopped my searches.I'd like to drive my speakers with low watt tube amps. But which Fostex?I thing about the FE206E. It's an 8"driver so,better bass responce,and also a lot of diyers claim that they're better than the more expensive FE208E-sigma!So for around 200 euros/pair they're the best choice. But what kind of enclosure I must choose to build? As I mention above I'd like to build an easy project so I must choose btw vented,bass reflex,TL or MLTL. So,what do you say to build Martin King's project 5? It's a very attractive design and a lot of diyers have build it with good results.(see gallery at Martin's site) Martin King also mention that it can be upgraded in the future with Lowther drivers! So?Build them? Or I have missed something in my searches and there's something better to build with 200 euros?Without the cabinet of cource.

21st February 2005, 10:38 PM	#5
GM diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chamblee, Ga.	Just worked fine for me. GM __________________ Loud is Beautiful if it's Clean! As always though, the usual disclaimers apply to this post's contents.

21st February 2005, 11:08 PM	#6
Cyburgs diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austria	@Resident: Have you had a look at the "Viech"? Beyma 8AG/N horn or "the Viech" They have high efficiency (96dB/W/m), are fairly easy to build and cost about 150 Euros/pair! If you want to stay with the Fostexes, I would recommend the FE206E in a Jericho horn enclosure. Very nice speaker, that. Nice greetings, Berndt

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21st February 2005, 09:41 PM	#4
resident Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Earth	There's a problem with your link!I can't visit the page.

22nd February 2005, 07:06 AM	#7
resident Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Earth	Ok,Ropie's link works well now for me.Maybe a problem with my connection.... Isn't it (+Viech and Jericho) more complicated than the MLTLs? MLTL enclosure is just four pieces of wood stick them together! Or BR!Like Fostex recommended enclosure.That is what I mean easy.Maybe my reference to TL has confused you.Sorry for that.

22nd February 2005, 09:15 AM	#8
Ropie diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SW London	If you can stick four pieces of wood together accurately then it is really not too much more trouble to stick twenty four (smaller) pieces together accurately. I've made simple TLs from a kit and my own Buschhorns - the TL kit took me two weeks, the BHorns took me two days. Do a search for Buschhorn in Google - there are quite a few examples (including my own). And you might find they work fine for you without the notch filter. However, I wouldn't want to put you off designing the TL as they can be really great speakers. BTW, those Viechs look like a good project too!

22nd February 2005, 03:39 PM	#9
Timn8ter diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I'm inclined to recommend a BLH for the FE206E which with it's rising FR it is well suited for. The Fostex recommended enclosure shouldn't be too tough. It looks harder than it really is. My FE206e Experiences

22nd February 2005, 09:49 PM	#10
resident Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Earth	Sorry that I didn't notice that I won't build the enclosures! I don't have the time for that and the required tools to work with. I'll order them from a local industry.If I'll order a simple enclosure the money won't be too much but if the woodworker see the schems of the BLH,the BHhorn,the Jericho or even the more simple Viech he will start to . Some months ago maybe a year I have ordered from him to build me the enclosuresof the Ariels I don't remember how much he wants to build them.And then I ask from him to build me the enclosures of the more simple,the Ariel ME2. So my project are not only 200 euros.But,plus the enclosure.That's why I decided to build Martin King's MLTL enclosure.I think the woodworker will spend only a few hours to build them.They're more simple than the Ariel ME2 are! If I'm happy with Fostex,then I'llgo with Lowther or...I don't know but with something better than the Fostex.And then I'll decide with which horn I'll go. So now I'd like to find a simple enclosure to keep the budget at low levels.

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