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Old 22nd December 2004, 02:20 PM   #21
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I need to come up with a gimmick so that I can get rich.
This is my complaint: it's not a gimmick. The idea's been there for years now. It's been on the web, as easy to find as a simple google search. The "artist" is selling an idea as his own which is not his own.

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Old 22nd December 2004, 02:44 PM   #22
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Founder of Acoustical Art, Harvey (Lee) is constantly fabricating new and innovative loudspeakers and accessories. A long time audio enthusiast, Harvey attended the University of Salford in Manchester England to pursue a Bachelor of Science degree in Audio Technology. He purposely chose to attend the University of Salford for its strong acoustical teachings, state of the art facilities including a full anechoic chamber, and world renowned professors. His final year research paper focused on novel loudspeaker enclosures. After graduating with honors, Harvey has relocated back to New York City and has been consulting, designing, and fabricating loudspeakers to his cliental needs.
No comment, just intriguing. Acoustical Art started in 2004. Rob had his stuff published on T-Linespeakers.org in 2002. To add to the controversy I've seen people come up with "original" ideas just to discover that it had already been done up to 50 years earlier.
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To add to the controversy I've seen people come up with "original" ideas just to discover that it had already been done up to 50 years earlier.
The honorable thing is to acknowledge the originator of the idea, even if you thought of it without any prior knowledge of the first genesis of the same idea.

This, I know, is law in:

Business (patents)
The Academy (plagiarism)
Music (copyright)

I don't know if this is law in the visual arts. But PVC pipe enclosures are certainly an intriguing idea that's been done before, at least twice.

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PS--and by "law," I mean, the authorities insist that one pay royalties to and/or publicly acknowledge the work of another from whose work one profits.
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In many creative fields, it is typical to say what or who has influenced the work. It could be that his person has no knowledge of previous pipe projects, although, technically, every big horn and even the bass cannons of yore qualify as prior art.

That said, I don't think it is art at all. It may qualify as industrial design, but more than anything, it is merely a non-standard application for off-the-shelf components. The fact that Sampson has called his project Audio Lego implies this also.

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Old 22nd December 2004, 08:41 PM   #25
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Mocked up the first pair last night. Working really fast to finish 2 pairs for separate Xmax gifts, so no pics until maybe next week.

Used 3" holesaw on the endcaps is perfect fit on the drivers. The beauty ring for locating the mounting pilot holes. Wiring just twisted onto terminals (for now). Surface mount the driver and beauty ring with #6-3/4" sheet metal screws. Press fit endcap onto 45deg elbow. Stuff about 3/4 solid with polyester flannel cut from dollar store blanket. Still have to get some 4" pipe cut into 4" lengths to press fit into the other end with another cap, but...

Surprisingly good mids and highs are mostly smooth (but not quite sweet). And this from an old, mostly clean receiver and my cheapo old CD player.

Will still need to figure out the tuning to take out some resonances in the mid-bass, but already better than most mini-system speakers.

All together... a great cheapo project to impress the non-philes.

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I think that's way cool. Let us know what your total cost of materials is.
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Yes, good work.
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I remember a cover story for Speaker Builder maybe 15 or more years ago for a project called "The Pipes" that looked pretty similar (though more elaborate).

BTW, the markups aren't unreasonable. If you're selling at 5 times the cost of bill of materials, you're going to be moderately profitable, but it's far from gouging.
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I remember a cover story for Speaker Builder maybe 15 or more years ago for a project called "The Pipes" that looked pretty similar (though more elaborate).

BTW, the markups aren't unreasonable. If you're selling at 5 times the cost of bill of materials, you're going to be moderately profitable, but it's far from gouging.
The real test is if they are as good or better than units at the same price point, eye-candy effect included of course.
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If I could get only 5 times as much for my caterpillars, I'd consider it a devastating loss and quit the business altogether.

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