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Old 16th December 2004, 09:16 PM   #1
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Default recomend a fostex driver and enclosure...plz...

hello! i've been working with cheaper speaker projects for a while now and i think that i'm ready to commit some serious cash into a project...

i thought about building some d3s because of the lower cost drivers it uses...but after thinking that over i decided that it would probobly be much better value and easier just to get some nice fostex drivers and build a spiffy enclosure.

i'm pretty sure that i'll be getting the fe166e because that seems to be in my price range.

but i must make a confession...don't get me worng, i loooove classical/celtic music very very much, but what i listen to mostly is techno before you start rolling your eyes at least listen to some of the "chemical brothers", my recomendation would be "the sunshine underground"

will these speakers perform well for that as well? i don't really see the need to go down to 20 or even 30 hz for music...

how low will the fe166e get in fostex's rear horn enclosure?

and what other enclosures are there that would work for this driver?

i'm open to other driver suggestions, but i'd like to keep the cost for drivers below 140 bucks for now, maybe adding a super tweeter later...


thank you so much
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Old 16th December 2004, 11:19 PM   #2
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A Bob Brines FT1600 (FE167E) or Martin King Project 5 (FE206E or FE207E) will get you into the 40Hz or lower department no problem. I play The Chemical Brothers, GusGus, Apollo 440, etc. on my FE207E pipes and they can rock jus' fine thank you.
BTW, I think The Sunshine Underground is an excellent composition and especially like when the bass disappears, leaves you hanging in the air momentarily and then catches you again.
Good stuff!
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Old 17th December 2004, 02:56 AM   #3
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Nothing wrong with techno, whats left of the good stuff anyways.

Any particular reason you only want fostex?
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Old 17th December 2004, 03:38 AM   #4
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A Bob Brines FT1600 (FE167E) or Martin King Project 5 (FE206E or FE207E) will get you into the 40Hz or lower department no problem. I play The Chemical Brothers, GusGus, Apollo 440, etc. on my FE207E pipes and they can rock jus' fine thank you.
BTW, I think The Sunshine Underground is an excellent composition and especially like when the bass disappears, leaves you hanging in the air momentarily and then catches you again.
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Nothing wrong with techno, whats left of the good stuff anyways.

Any particular reason you only want fostex?

wow...i was under the impression that most of the people here listened to "real" music... but thats totally cool!



the reason i'm mostly interested in a fostex is that i've never heard anything bad about em, i've never built a horn or a t-line and it sounds like a fun project...i'd rather build a horn tho...

also the efficiency of the fostex is a nice selling point for me...i'm working on a gainclone to go with these. one page said that they could get uncomfortably loud at 5 watts


if there is something in the same price range (120 for wooferS) that is better (that doesn't require an xover) the by all means tell me!

i'm not limiting myself to fostex, i've just read so many good things about em that they sounded like they would be my best bet...

soooooo, anything else?
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Old 17th December 2004, 03:54 AM   #5
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So... you want $120 max, no crossover?

The only thing that concerns me is- how LOUD do you want to go? The fostex ought to go reasonably loud, or reasonably low, but a 6 inch driver with 1.5 mm xmax can only do so much bass.

I would encourage you to do them, but I would also suggest that putting them into the suggested bass reflex box and then building a powered sub would be an even better solution.

You could do the FE167Es now, and build the sub later. Building a fostex enclosure that _can_ go low now won't keep you from using it with a sub later.

Sometimes the chemical brothers just rock my world. Back in the day, I worked at a radio shack and would often have a shift alone. There were slow days with literally 5 or 6 customers, and I would play Piku with the radio shack 12" powered sub all the way up and knock dust out of the ceiling

Full range speakers are good, but dedicated subwoofers are awesome for techno. (if you like it loud)
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Old 17th December 2004, 04:01 AM   #6
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also the efficiency of the fostex is a nice selling point for me...i'm working on a gainclone to go with these. one page said that they could get uncomfortably loud at 5 watts


if there is something in the same price range (120 for wooferS) that is better (that doesn't require an xover) the by all means tell me!

i'm not limiting myself to fostex, i've just read so many good things about em that they sounded like they would be my best bet...

soooooo, anything else?

The Fostex FE166E and 206E are likely best suited for use with a tube amp. I have heard some reports of Fostex drivers not sounding so hot with a gainclone.

You can likely get some decent power output from a gainclone, so you don't really need a high efficiency driver. Given your intended amp and musical preference, don't discount some of the nice two-way project out there that can fit in your price range.

Good luck,
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Old 17th December 2004, 08:51 AM   #7
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Just finished the Bob Brines FT1600 MK II a couple of weeks ago. Listening to the Fight Club soundtrack (Chemical Bros), they do OK on the base notes with my SS receiver (Onkyo SV500) --- they are fast and clean. I really like serious bass with this kind of music and augment with a home grown dual 15-inch infinite baffle sub (google Cult of the Infinitely Baffled). It's good and loud without the sub but with the sub you get the serious feel of the bass. I am crossing over at 40Hz so just bringing in the bottom end with the sub.
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Oops! Dust Brothers, Chemical Brothers....at least it's all electrons.
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Old 17th December 2004, 12:21 PM   #9
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i would be willing to upgrade to a better woofer such as the fe206 if it would get me as low as i need...

i don't want to get TOO loud, but its always nice to have the ability
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Old 17th December 2004, 12:44 PM   #10
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Don't forget about the FE167E. I'm partial to these because of the neat cabinet design on the fostex site. Should work good with the correct sub helping the low end. But, less xmax than the FE206E.

http://www.fostexinternational.com/d...7e_enclrev.pdf
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