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Old 29th December 2017, 06:02 PM   #1
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Default Use of different model of driver for a recommended back horn enclosure? sizes same.

Hi,
I have pair of Tang Band W5-1611SAF 5" Full Range Speakers, and was looking to build the suggested Back Horn enclosure on Tang Band site - SUG1-03 - 5” Full Range Back Horn Design, Floor-Standing Enclosure Suggestion - TB SPEAKER CO., LTD.

The doubt I have is that although the speaker sizes are same the speakers suggested for that enclosure is different - W5-1880 - 5" Paper Neodymium Full Range - TB SPEAKER CO., LTD., is that okay?

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Use of different model of driver for a recommended back horn enclosure? sizes same.
The horn-load usually doninates but one has to be careful of substituting a different driver, particularily if there is no mechanism for tuning the horn to the driver.

Why not look at the Frugel-Horn Mk3? The W5-1611 has been successfully used in this horn — one does have to usea supraBaffle to make it fit.

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The horn-load usually doninates but one has to be careful of substituting a different driver, particularily if there is no mechanism for tuning the horn to the driver.

Why not look at the Frugel-Horn Mk3? The W5-1611 has been successfully used in this horn ó one does have to usea supraBaffle to make it fit.

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Hi Dave,

thanks.

Pardon my question I am new to this .
You mention that I have to use the supraBaffle to make it fit. I see pictures that don't seem to use the supraBaffle - Frugal-horn with small Ash waveguide, Tang Band W5-1611SAF… | Flickr ?
The reason I ask is, my wood work skill is level zero right now and I want to build a horn speaker with minimal wood work as I can get away with.

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Use of different model of driver for a recommended back horn enclosure? sizes same.
Well maybe you can fit it. But with the big ceramic magnet on yours it would still be recommended. A sample draeing is in the planset.

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Thanks Dave, I will look into it.
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This type horn design is pretty tolerant of T/S specs, so why not just make it a bit wider to give the driver some breathing room? Worst case is it will need extra damping and/or some series resistance. 'BIB' rules in horn design.

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Old 31st December 2017, 02:16 AM   #7
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This type horn design is pretty tolerant of T/S specs, so why not just make it a bit wider to give the driver some breathing room? Worst case is it will need extra damping and/or some series resistance. 'BIB' rules in horn design.

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You're welcome! BIB = 'bigger is better', both good advice for horn design and happens to be the nickname for a popular, long running, easy to design/build pipe horn design thread: Terry Cain's BIB -why does it work and does anyone have those Fostex Craft Handbooks?

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More BIB info here
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Interesting Will check the links out.
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