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Old 6th September 2017, 01:49 AM   #21
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But I read the FH series need to be quite off the back wall to work well, which might not be easy if the room is on the smallish side.

They might work, but it will depend on the room's design.
And I also heard good things about the FH series as well from builders here.
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Old 6th September 2017, 01:55 AM   #22
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Dayton PA130-8 in a 0.53x Karlsonator. Or dual PA130-8 wired in parallel in and XKi for 95dB at 2.83v sensitivity and capable of a 50Hz to 15kHz performance in a budget driver.
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Old 6th September 2017, 02:12 AM   #23
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But I read the FH series need to be quite off the back wall to work well
On the contrary, close to a wall or corner is best to be able to use the wall(s) as an extention to the horn mouth. Bass quantity dictated by room, placement, driver, listner preference can be adjusted with the amount of stuffing below the driver.

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Old 6th September 2017, 02:53 AM   #24
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Dayton PA130-8 in a 0.53x Karlsonator. Or dual PA130-8 wired in parallel in and XKi for 95dB at 2.83v sensitivity and capable of a 50Hz to 15kHz performance in a budget driver.

The Dayton PA130-8 in a 0.53x Karlsonator was my first choice until I discovered yesterday that there is a local supplier of FaitalPro. And the prices are so low that I'd be a fool to ignore it. I have a choice between 3FE22 and 4FE32. What do you think is the best option now?
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Dayton PA130-8 in a 0.53x Karlsonator. Or dual PA130-8 wired in parallel in and XKi for 95dB at 2.83v sensitivity and capable of a 50Hz to 15kHz performance in a budget driver.
hi X,
What type of box do you recommend for dual Dayton PA 130-8 wired in parallel ?
You mean use the 16 Ohm version of the driver ?
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Old 6th September 2017, 09:15 AM   #26
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hi X,
What type of box do you recommend for dual Dayton PA 130-8 wired in parallel ?
You mean use the 16 Ohm version of the driver ?
XKi - X's ab initio Karlson 6th Order Bandpass

Two 8 ohm drivers giving a 4 ohm speaker.
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Yes, dual 8ohms in parallel for 4ohm speaker that is 95dB at 2.83v. Not bad for $36 in drivers.

Skylar88: if you have ready access to Faital Pro, a dual 3FE25-8ohms in parallel in a 0.53x Karlsonator is quite impressively loud at 97dB and 2.83v. Should sound good as those are smooth drivers.
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Yes, dual 8ohms in parallel for 4ohm speaker that is 95dB at 2.83v. Not bad for $36 in drivers.

Skylar88: if you have ready access to Faital Pro, a dual 3FE25-8ohms in parallel in a 0.53x Karlsonator is quite impressively loud at 97dB and 2.83v. Should sound good as those are smooth drivers.

Thanks X, I was actually thinking to ask you about that. Wow, 97dB.

I can only get the newer (I suppose) 3FE22's. Would they be suitable as duals too? I suppose a single 4FE32 wouldn't be as good in a 0.53x K.

And then a question about mounting the FaitalPro's FR drivers. Seeing that they are rear-mount, would it matter if it's front-mounted? Rear-mounting in a Karlsonator wouldn't be so easy.

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Old 6th September 2017, 04:08 PM   #29
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Fair chance that the ACA will be 'better' than any speaker you are looking at. When (?) you move up into a bigger Pass amp then you will be needing to replace that speaker. As it Will be an obvious bottleneck.
As in don't waste effort searching for the ideal best speaker.. yet.
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Fair chance that the ACA will be 'better' than any speaker you are looking at. When (?) you move up into a bigger Pass amp then you will be needing to replace that speaker. As it Will be an obvious bottleneck.
As in don't waste effort searching for the ideal best speaker.. yet.

Hmm, food for thought, that is.

Thanks Bare. So, what would you suggest as better speakers for bigger Papa amps. Not that I'll build it now. Just curious. And is that because the bigger amps would require less efficient speakers?

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