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Old 27th January 2016, 01:21 PM   #1
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Default Faital 3FE25/3FE22

Hi, I knocked up a couple of test cabinets yesterday for 4x Faital 3FE25 that I have had laying around for ages and I have to admit, I was pleasantly surprised! They need a little EQ but after that they sound lovely and to my ears they don't need a tweeter. Detail and imaging are fantastic!
So my question is, has anyone had the opportunity to compare the 3FE25 to the 3FE22? Apart from being lighter, are there any differences? Is distortion lower on one or the other? Response looks a little smoother in the HF on the neo version..
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Old 27th January 2016, 01:34 PM   #2
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I have used both and in 3FE22 I have 4, 8, and 16ohms. The 3FE22 sounds more refined on the high end both have great mids. Distortion is about the same. The 3FE25 works very well in a 0.4x Karlsonator. I use the 3FE22 mostly for FAST or as a horn loaded mid/tweet in a tractrix (Trynergy). The 3FE22 4ohm has a ringing at about 12kHz that is apparent as a little sibillance. Sound quality of the 3FE22 16ohm and 8ohm is better without sibillance. 3FE25 has no sibillance. In general they are excellent sounding drivers and you will not find a higher sensitivity full range 3.5in driver with this power rating at this price point.

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Old 27th January 2016, 01:45 PM   #3
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Great info, thanks. I am planning a line array using these and want the best option but is the neo version worth nearly double the price of the ferrite? I think I will order some 3FE22's and have a listen!
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Old 27th January 2016, 03:06 PM   #4
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For a line array, the 3FE25 is probably the better choice as the others have a stronger motor really for ported or horn loaded use. As a sealed rear chamber, the higher Qts of the 3FE25 will have naturally lower bass extension. The 3FE22 does have a slightly smoother frequency response through the 10k to 15k region though, but the added price is substnatial if buying 50 of them - is it worth it? Indeed buying a few samples to test and listen for yourself makes sense.
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Old 29th January 2016, 01:12 AM   #5
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I have the 3fe25 and 4fe25 and LOVE them. haven't heard the 22's. Planning on doing a 4 line array myself with sub support top and bottom. Since they both do about the same thing I've let them play together and that also sounds great. The Hilding Horn pictured is wonderful, very little dispersion so I found stacking 4 helped the head in the vice feeling you can kinda get. There is a thread on here with a youtube clip if you want to hear the 3fe25 in the horn.
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Old 29th January 2016, 02:30 AM   #6
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Old 29th January 2016, 02:41 AM   #7
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dave 111, just notice how rapidly the distortion rises below 200 Hz
this is true for any 3-4" fullrange
I would avoid feeding it anything below 200 Hz
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Old 29th January 2016, 10:58 AM   #8
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I guess this is true of most 3" drivers with small x-max? I have subs and in a large enough line array I'm hoping to get usable output to 100Hz or so in room. Hopefully with lots of drivers working together distortion below 200Hz won't be so much of a problem?
I have some 3FE22 on the way for comparison to 3FE25.
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Old 29th January 2016, 01:30 PM   #9
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Well in a properly designed cabinet that can enhance the bass output from the back wave (BR, BLH, TL, TQWT, MLTL, Karlsonator, etc) you can get operation down far below 200Hz with reasonable HD if not played too loud (80dB to 85dB).
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Old 30th January 2016, 01:50 AM   #10
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mpa, look here for distortion graphs, as well at zaph's page
they do all distort below 200 hz
Timothy Feleppa's Pages
its up to you to decide if you tolerate it or not
distortion presents as upper harmonics and muddies the sound, at least to me, I can't stand it
it ruins what could otherwise be a nice midrange
do not take me wrong, I like small midranges, they sound more magical to me than big midrange
so why f@#$ it up by pushing that little thing below what it was designed for
just my experience from line array with 16 3" drivers and other builds
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