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Old 21st August 2015, 09:57 PM   #1
Cerniu is offline Cerniu  Lithuania
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Default CHR-70 vs. W5-1611

Hello,

I have been listening to Cyburgs Needles with FRS8 for some time and I'm quite happy with them, but I want to build another speakers and achieve better low-end.

My budget is up to 100 euros for a pair of drivers.

What I've stumbled across are TB W5-1611, which from the graphs, seem to have a good low frequency response. Also, I see that a very popular driver in this price range is MA CHR-70 with many different designs available.

So now it is hard to choose the driver and design to use.
Any comments on CHR-70 Lotus / W5-1611 FH3 ?

Or maybe, there are new/better designs available.

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Old 22nd August 2015, 03:48 AM   #2
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2 quite different drivers, i find the CHR a bit tipped up, and the 1611 with real solid bass and missing something on the top is the other way (in FH3 we used a supraBaffle to make them an easy fit.

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Old 23rd August 2015, 02:34 PM   #3
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I believe the Lotus is designed for previous CHR-70's and is not optimized for the current driver. I would love to see the Lotus cabinet design updated for the current CHR-70 driver as I have 2 current drivers and would love to build a pair of Lotus cabinets. If I am incorrect, please let me know and I will be firing up the table saw.
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Old 23rd August 2015, 03:11 PM   #4
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I see. What about details and sound quality, is one of them superior to the other in that way?

Which one would you prefer?

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Old 23rd August 2015, 08:34 PM   #5
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I'm quite happy with the CHR-70. I actually prefer it to the big brother Alpair 7. And that has nothing to do with the CHR being less detailed. Which it supposedly is. It just has a nicer overall balance to my ears. The top is slightly hot but that is only an advantage to my ears with concerns to off axis behaviour. And under any circumstance easy to tweak with EQ.
The W5 is a polycone which is traditionally seen as less detailed. Yet I haven't heard the particular driver.
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Old 24th August 2015, 12:22 AM   #6
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The gernerations of CHR have maintaned specs quite closely… certainly should be for Lotus.

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Old 24th August 2015, 01:09 AM   #7
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Squeak - you're likely not the only one with that opinion of the CHRs , and as long as we all don't get wrapped up in our own narratives, Cerniu should hopefully glean some useful information from the conversation
I happen to prefer the A7.3's overall, but the CHR70 definitely works well in the FH3
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Old 25th August 2015, 11:51 AM   #8
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You use the word "overall" implying that you do agree to some advantages to the CHR. I'd be interested to hear what you think those are and the overall differences.

Ps. I don't consider this thread jacking as it is related to one of the drivers in question.
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Old 25th August 2015, 04:37 PM   #9
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Well actually, for me the advantages of the CHR would be mostly budgetary - I find the Alpair vastly more refined and detailed, but at more than twice the price that's to be hoped - of course not all folks hear the same things.

Back to the other driver in the opening question - I heard the W5-1611 last year in a very familiar enclosure (FH3) - great bass, a bit warm and not as crisply detailed and resolving in the upper mids and top end as the CHR or A7.3, and shy at the top octave compared to either of the metals.
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