Frugel-Horn MK3: help my build in Northern Sweden - diyAudio
Go Back   Home > Forums > Loudspeakers > Full Range

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10th June 2015, 05:44 PM   #1
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sweden
Default Frugel-Horn MK3: help my build in Northern Sweden

Hi,
I am new in Europe, and this will be my first real built here. I don't know the stores here, and what are the local tricks.

I am now planning to built a pair of frugal horn mk3 on 18mm plywood with Alpair 7 3rd generation.

1st question: Where is a reasonable place to buy the Alpair (given shipping cost and duty if applicable)? I looked at the Mark Audio distributor from their web site, but I would like to know if there is a little hidden gem where I could snap a deal?

2nd question: Stuffing. What do you recommend? For that stuff, shipping cost is on the same scale as the product given the volume (I may be wrong). What would you recommend in term of stuffing material and the amount so that I have just too much, so I don't need another delivery?

3rd Question: Is there "home made" alternative for the stuffing material, that would perform on par with stuffing labelled "for audio"?

4rd Question: What would you recommend for protection of the drivers in a hostile environment (young kids who want to touch the drivers). One option is speaker grill, but I am sure creative people in the forum have experience more aesthetic options.

I am looking forward to ear your opinion, and I will post pictures of the progression. My time frame for the completion of this is about 6 months, so don't hold your breath for the pictures.

Best regards,
  Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2015, 07:07 PM   #2
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
Blog Entries: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by spacemen12 View Post
1st question: Where is a reasonable place to buy the Alpair (given shipping cost and duty if applicable)?
Euro distribution always seems in flux. I do know i was surprised that the new UK gus had similar pricing to Madisound here in NA. If you want to bust the budget i can ship a set of matched/EnABLed drivers from here in Canada.

Quote:
2nd question: Stuffing. What do you recommend? For that stuff, shipping cost is on the same scale as the product given the volume (I may be wrong). What would you recommend in term of stuffing material and the amount so that I have just too much, so I don't need another delivery?
For our flat-paks (and A7.3) i ship 2x30g acoustastuff for the points and 2x40g for under the driver. Tpically about 1/2 the 40g will get used, more or less needed depending on room, room placement and taste.

Quote:
3rd Question: Is there "home made" alternative for the stuffing material, that would perform on par with stuffing labelled "for audio"?
One can use "pillow stuffing", polyester or dcron wool available from the craft/fabric store or long haired sheep's wool. The damping properties of these can vary a lot. If ou use wool probable best to mix it will polfluff to keep it from sagging.

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2015, 11:08 PM   #3
chrisb is offline chrisb  Canada
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: victoria BC
as for driver protection - the purist's distaste for grilles, etc notwithstanding, I can full appreciate the caution - a slightly compromised functioning pair of A7s beat a damaged pair any day of the week

for maximum protection, a stamped or open mesh metal grille something like this would be my best bet

Click the image to open in full size.

Madisound, in nice increments from 4.5" to 12", dirt cheap - ($3.50 to 10.00 pair -international shipping would cost more - but a similar product would likely be available through your closest distributor
__________________
this retirement thing is harder than it looks for some folks
  Reply With Quote
Old 11th June 2015, 10:32 AM   #4
MAW61 is offline MAW61  Netherlands
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by spacemen12 View Post
Hi,
1st question: Where is a reasonable place to buy the Alpair (given shipping cost and duty if applicable)? I looked at the Mark Audio distributor from their web site, but I would like to know if there is a little hidden gem where I could snap a deal?
Alpair 7 3rd Generation (gold & gray) should be available from RumoH - Caps, coils and speakers - RumoH - Caps, coils and speakers in the Netherlands for EUR 168 plus EUR 13 S&H to Sweden (that's about SEK 1,675).

I've dealt with Rudi a few times. A very knowledgable and helpful bloke.

MAW
  Reply With Quote
Old 11th June 2015, 12:31 PM   #5
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Newark, DE
Another option for speaker grilles is to use wire finger guards for boxer fans.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11th June 2015, 08:39 PM   #6
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sweden
Thank you!
  Reply With Quote
Old 11th June 2015, 08:56 PM   #7
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
Blog Entries: 5
Copper A7.3 (confusing that they are called gold) 116 = $180 USD = 159 EUR, don't know whether that includes UK VAT, if it does a bargain.

Also available in Silver (called Grey).

Alpair 7M Gold | Oak Audio

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th June 2015, 06:02 PM   #8
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sweden
Quote:
Originally Posted by planet10 View Post
Copper A7.3 (confusing that they are called gold) 116 = $180 USD = 159 EUR, don't know whether that includes UK VAT, if it does a bargain.

Also available in Silver (called Grey).

Alpair 7M Gold | Oak Audio

dave
Thanks,
I just contacted them for a quote for the shipping cost to Sweden.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Frugel-Horn Mk3 planet10 Full Range 1500 22nd June 2015 08:51 AM
Frugel-Horn Mk3 Builds & Build Questions planet10 Full Range 1124 19th May 2015 08:23 AM
2 frugel horn mk3 questions evanc Planet 10 hifi 4 28th February 2015 09:03 AM
Solid Cherry Frugel Horn Mk3 Build Bozeman83 Full Range 30 14th February 2012 01:03 AM
My Frugel Horn Mk3 Build mythosofsmythos Full Range 9 16th December 2011 05:28 AM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:31 PM.


vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2015 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 1999-2015 diyAudio

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2