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Old 25th September 2017, 01:03 PM   #851
kevner1954 is offline kevner1954  United States
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I'll comment on the XL's one more time, this is in my modest 9x13' room. With my Cathodyne 807 amp and oppo103 CD player , you will not find better sound, these speakers in my room with this particular equipment is just mind boggling, from top to bottom, just stunning with these 63 year old ears, totally worth the effort!!!
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Old 25th September 2017, 06:42 PM   #852
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kevner1954,

Good to know that you are enjoying your system, and the effort that went into building the FHXL has been well worthwhile.
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Old 6th November 2017, 04:23 AM   #853
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Hi! I have a pair of a good old Fostex 166E-SR and looking for best type speakers to use. I stopped on FXL. Can I expect a good result? Need FXL plans to be modifided in dementions to match those speakers? I'm good in carpentry rathe then in acustic scince. FXL will be in "tiger" oak.
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Old 6th November 2017, 05:40 AM   #854
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FE166En & FE168eS have been reported to work in FHXL. You will need corner loading and minimal damping to get bass.

You might have a look at Woden Victor… we have heard FE166eSR in it and that combo certainly works.

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Old 6th November 2017, 09:03 AM   #855
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Thank you, Dave! I'd like to get drawings. Should I buy it throught donation ? Ore somthing else?
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Old 8th December 2017, 12:43 AM   #856
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Plans cost a minimum $10 donation to diyAudio (just send me a copy of your PayPal receipt). Drawn for butt joints.

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akmr - This is how to get plans.
I just e-mailed Dave my donation receipt for a copy also.
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Old 15th January 2018, 02:06 PM   #857
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Well Happy New year and what I've never done was finish my XL's off , because sounding so good, am afraid to even move them. Not a big fan of the speakers having to be pretty. On a question about the drivers I noticed the MA10.3 is capable of bass into the 38hz region ? and the paper cone I'm using only to 42hz. a big deal ? worth the 800 hours to break them in ? will the 10.3 give a more extended high frequencies? anyway hope everything is well with Dave in this new year. I think its important to keep this thread going. Still very impressed by this speaker. have not heard too much from other builders of the XL's. no news is good news?????
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Old 15th January 2018, 02:17 PM   #858
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Happy New Year kevner1954, and good to know that you are enjoying the FH-XL speakers. I've heard the FH-XL with both Alpair 10.3 and Alpair 10P - to my ears the Alpair 10.3 treble presentation is a bit hotter vs the Alpair 10P, whereas the A10P mids are a just bit more pronounced - so it is a matter of preference (and content maybe) on which one the listener will prefer. Difficult to really point out differences in lower frequencies, as the cabinet (and room) will come into play and the driver Fs will not be the only factor there.
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Old 15th January 2018, 04:05 PM   #859
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Kevin - I'd certainly agree with Zia's assessment of the metals being a bit "hotter" in the top several octaves than the papers, and that there's more than a modicum of subjectivity to the question of "which is 'better'?" .

If you're not asking the XLs to do the heaviest lifting in the bottom, the less than 5Hz difference between the two drivers might well be moot. I currently happen to be running a combination of 10.3 ( L&R)and 10P (Centre) in my 7.1 system, and there are times in which I'm not sure if metals across the whole front row wouldn't make for more consistent voicing, but I guess that's not really what you asked.

When we first had the opportunity to A/B the two A10 models - several years ago now, and both in FHXL as detailed earlier in this thread - my initial preference was for the paper. However, after the extended break-in I find it's much more of a "Chardonnay, or Pinot Grigio?" question - they're both worth the tipple.
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Old 15th January 2018, 05:30 PM   #860
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so a little more of the edge on things like cymbals and brass. and most important How is Dave doing
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