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Old 18th November 2013, 10:20 PM   #11
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I own more than half the "full range" drivers out there, and of those the only
ones that I put in the same category are the Feastrex D9nf.
Mr. Pass,

Could you tell us your favourite in the next lower price stratum (below the Lowther, that is)?

Thanks

John

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Old 18th November 2013, 10:22 PM   #12
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crazyfrog,
"another "hot" set of speakers with PM6A "

Yes, my experience show the lowther work "only" in a satellite horn down 100 Hz,
fill up to ~600 Hz and reduce the stroke, a good sub is needed.

look my sat-horns
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Old 19th November 2013, 02:30 AM   #13
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crazyfrog,
"another "hot" set of speakers with PM6A "

Yes, my experience show the lowther work "only" in a satellite horn down 100 Hz,
fill up to ~600 Hz and reduce the stroke, a good sub is needed.

look my sat-horns

Wow! Looks like marble in the second speaker.
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Old 20th November 2013, 09:34 PM   #14
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Could you tell us your favorite in the next
lower price stratum (below the Lowther, that is)?
Someone would have to ask and create work for me...

I went back through my files. All of these were at least evaluated in open
baffles and with few exceptions I used a woofer crossed in at or below 100 Hz
with a B5 crossover/EQ. If you want the basic setup, check out the
Slot Loaded Open Baffle article for electronics and photos of the OB's that
Jon Ver Halen has at Lowther Home

All the drivers relatively inexpensive, and all of them were "livable", that is to
say that at worst they sound pretty good after a glass of wine. Most of
them require a little screwing around to get them right. I will not bore you
with audiophile descriptions of the sound of each. This is DIY, so write your
own.

In no particular order:

Seas Prestige FA22RCZ and the Pioneer BU20 - both of these are decent,
smooth and reasonably neutral. You can get by without a woofer. The
Pioneers are discontinued, but were about $20 when available. Both work
pretty well on the bottom with a number of common enclosures. Seas
Exotics are priced out of this listing.

Fostex: FE166, the newer FE208ES and FE108ES, FF165WK, FF225WK,
and the older FF165K and FF225K. Not so much the older 208, 204, 206,
which I could not really warm up to. I think the most interesting at the
moment is the FE108ES. And of course there a couple of high priced FR
drivers.

Audio Nirvana: AN8, AN6 and super versions. Every once in a while I
mount these up and get a pleasant surprise. The cast frame versions are
spendier, and I leave it to you to decide about the extra money. The Alnicos
are too high for the list.

Jordan J92: Also great in a little box by itself or in the Kleinhorn. I keep a
pair in boxes on my desk, and I have loaned them to some very fussy people
who liked them a lot. No adjustments needed.

Alpair: The variations on the Jordan (plastic cones) are a safe buy, and they
sound good in a box or OB. I tend to like the larger ones. At BAF we had a
pair of the new paper cone units (which I was told were Peerless, possibly
mistakenly) which were there for evaluation at the next Speaker Camp, and I
think unanimously judged the best of the bunch. I was reminded of that, so
I just ordered the 12P models.

Tang Band: I have the W81772 and 1808 and out of the box they are a
good start, but it's another case of needing a little work. That said, lots
of people like them.

Moth Cicadas. Almost a Lowther, but cheap, and better bottom.
Unfortunately, like the Pioneers, no longer generally available.

There are quite a few not on this list for various reasons, not the least of which
is I do not have them or I haven't done the work to try to bring out their best.

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Old 20th November 2013, 10:22 PM   #15
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Someone would have to ask and create work for me...

I went back through my files. All of these were at least evaluated in open
baffles and with few exceptions I used a woofer crossed in at or below 100 Hz
with a B5 crossover/EQ. If you want the basic setup, check out the
Slot Loaded Open Baffle article for electronics and photos of the OB's that
Jon Ver Halen has at Lowther Home

Sir,

did you ever had experience with lowther field coil speakers...heard some rave reviews for them.....

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Old 20th November 2013, 10:37 PM   #16
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Papa, I'll throw in the KEF Q100 drivers in there for you to try as well. I recently built a pair and they throw an enormous soundstage and are extremely good sounding. You can buy a pair of the Q100 bookshelves and then extract the drivers.

Nice summary, btw I'm glad I happened upon it.
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Old 20th November 2013, 10:47 PM   #17
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did you ever had experience with lowther field coil speakers...heard some rave reviews for them...
I have a nice pair made by Jon Ver Halen at Lowther America Home

and also have borrowed a pair of the Feastrex 9 inchers.

In both cases I consider them better, but they are very expensive and
somewhat cumbersome.

I think most would say the improvement is out of proportion to the cost, but
what's new?

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Old 20th November 2013, 10:49 PM   #18
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I have a nice pair made by Jon Ver Halen at Lowther America Home

and also have borrowed a pair of the Feastrex 9 inchers.

In both cases I consider them better, but they are very expensive and
somewhat cumbersome.

I think most would say the improvement is out of proportion to the cost, but
what's new?

beauty lies in eye of beholder....so is value ....

have been interested in that for a while...was waiting for some one as big as papa to tell go for it..




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Old 21st November 2013, 03:06 PM   #19
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wow Pass, thanks for that write up! Really interesting
Havent you ever heard supravox units or the famous JBL LE8T?
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I have not had the Supravox in. Apparently they forgot to send me a pair...

I do have a friend with a pair of vintage LE8's, and they sound very good.

If you trust Ebay, it looks like you can get them for $300+

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