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Old 6th June 2013, 05:04 AM   #1
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Hi all. Total newb to speaker building. Been reading this great forum for awhile.

I'd like some help to determine the best enclosure for the Tang Band W5-1611SAF 5" Full Range Speaker.

Tang Band W5-1611SAF 5" Full Range Speaker 264-918

I'd like a larger cabinet to get a little more bass. A very simple enclosure would be great (bass reflex?) as I don't have the tools to build complex boxes.

I can't find much info on these drivers, as far as boxes are concerned.

Any help with actual box dimensions would help me out big time.

Also would like to know if there is any Free software available for Macs to calculate enclosures.

Thanks in advance.....
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Old 6th June 2013, 05:41 AM   #2
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Hi, search for Voigt pipe, or BIB in this forum.
I play with sort of PVC pipes, the very thick ones, the results are sort of a 'snail'
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Old 6th June 2013, 06:33 AM   #3
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ODougbo did a BR derivative for these. We had ours (the neo version) in a Frugel-Horn Mk3 (needs the added supraBaffle) where it did well.

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ODougbo did a BR derivative for these. We had ours (the neo version) in a Frugel-Horn Mk3 (needs the added supraBaffle) where it did well.

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I really like the Mk3 design and bet they sound great but I just don't have the budget for the flat pac and shipping cost. Need to do this first project on the cheap and learn from my mistakes. In fact I am interested in the MA 10.2, but for the first time I wanna spend less ( plus the fact is they seem to be nowhere to be found).

Will any of the Pensils work for the TB? (with some alterations?)
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But those are WAF approved...and we don't like that !
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Old 6th June 2013, 03:41 PM   #7
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After playing my W5-1611s for years in a flat-five inspired DBR box, with which I did manage to achieve ~40hz extension, I'm personally planning to make the transition to either a MLTL or a TL/horn hybrid. See the following posts for a compact MLTL design that should provide good bass extension:

TL-design box for W5-1611sa

TL-design box for W5-1611sa

And here is a bass horn/TL hybrid design that should work well with the W5.

http://www.quarter-wave.com/Horns/BL...gn_Article.pdf
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Old 6th June 2013, 03:51 PM   #8
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Here is my in-room frequency response for the W5-1611 double bass reflex, just posted to show the bass extension. Keep in mind that in this configuration, a 5" driver like this will only give you the impression of deep bass. I expect a TL or a horn, which their greater control over the driver, to perform somewhat better in this regard.
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Old 6th June 2013, 04:21 PM   #9
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After playing my W5-1611s for years in a flat-five inspired DBR box, with which I did manage to achieve ~40hz extension]
Thanks Chaz for those links, looks interesting.
Do you have any sketch ups your "flat-five inspired DBR box"? Would that be a "simpler" build?

I found this last night....any comments?

http://www.nordic-audio.de/doku.php/...etler_anwesend
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‘Best’ is a ‘moving target’ dependent on many variables, but a simple tower floor-standing vented alignment [aka MLTL] seems a good choice:

52” H
50”^2 WxD
driver down 15.25”
vent down 41.625”
vent diameter 2”
vent length 0.75”

All dims i.d. and approximate. Suggest lining one side, top and back with 1” acoustic fiberglass or similar or stuff with polyfil or similar just enough to keep it from sounding hollow. Mass loading relatively lightweight cabs is a good plan, so recommend adding weight to the top. Due to being top heavy [even if there’s no added top weight], best to provide a massive base or at least a large ‘footprint’ leg system to compensate.

If made from no-void 0.75” thick material, no bracing is required with such a small, low linear output driver.

It may need some baffle step compensation [BSC] EQ to sound tonally balanced in room: General Speaker Related Articles

No clue about Mac speaker design software other than it’s still a rarity, so folks use other software to allow some PC programs to run on them.

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