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Old 1st April 2013, 12:49 AM   #1
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Hi. Moving into place where we can finally place some horns. We want to build something big, beautiful and dramatic with an emphasis on dynamics, depth of soundstage, effortlessness and have the room for some bass horns or baffles.
Not to say it is a large room (14' x 20'), but WAF is not an issue as both our tastes go for stuff like Western Electric 15a's. Room has plaster walls, pine flooring and 9' ceilings.
System runs on 2a3's, maybe converted to type 45's and have an updated Dynaco ST70 for bi-amping. Plays mostly vinyl and gets a lot of hours of an eclectic mix of music, so listener fatique need not apply. System will see: soul, string quartets, piano sonatas, some orchestral, hard rock, metal, old country, techno and some jazz. Very little acoustical, folk or bluegrass etc.
If anyone has any recommendations no matter how wild, please write them down, this might be fun.
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Forgot to mention budget. Unfortunately, this would have to be a Fostex/Eminence type build, as $2k Lowther drivers are out of the picture...for now.
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You can try Avebury with Mark Audio Alpair 12P, Vulcan or Kirishima with Fostex FE206EN, Victor with FE166EN.
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Old 1st April 2013, 10:04 AM   #5
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Wideband drive units and hard rock / metal / techno doth not a happy combination make. They can do it (well, some of them) but they're not optimal. If ultimate dynamic range is your thing, then you need a high efficiency multiway system. However, good examples can do the other genres you mention very nicely, and of course if you like the appearance of horns, then there are plenty of options open there. Everything's a compromise to some extent, so you'll need to decide what to prioritise.

FWIW, with 2A3 amplifiers you will obviously need all the efficiency you can get, but you still haven't mentioned buget other than to say you can't afford $2,000 Lowthers -no great loss since irrespective of their other merits (or otherwise) I can't think of worse drivers for hard rock etc. Quite a few ideas come to mind, but it does depend on how much you have to spend and what you decide you want to focus on as to what can be realistically suggested.
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Thank you for the pics and suggestions!
In terms of priorities, effortlessness and dynamics without losing tone and inner-detail would be paramount.
Budget constraints demand that creativity and DIY take presidence.
Some things that have interested me so far:
Medallion II's w/ AN Super 8's
Tractrix paper mache horns w/ compression drivers and WE type bass baffles
Bruce Edgar type wooden tractrix horns and bass enclosures
Part of the fun will be designing and building this system. Been looking forward to it for a long time.

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Old 1st April 2013, 03:34 PM   #7
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Then since dynamic range is your thing you need to go with the multiway option; dedicated HE woofers with compression mid-tweets.
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Old 1st April 2013, 04:01 PM   #8
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Check out the Cornscala kit. I have not heard it myself, but it looks like it could be what you are looking for.
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Old 2nd April 2013, 07:37 PM   #9
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If anyone has any recommendations no matter how wild, please write them down, this might be fun.
You may want to add the DecWare Corner Horns to the list.
If you have corners and are willing to take on a fairly time consuming build, they are well worth it.
Less than $400 buys everything needed for a pair.
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Old 2nd April 2013, 09:06 PM   #10
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something like tannoy westminsters, so big 15" coax's in corner horns? i don't understand why coax drivers aren't used more than they are, they just sound the absolute best to my ears. buckets of dynamcis and the highs are generally far more composed from a compression driver.
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