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Old 27th March 2013, 04:06 AM   #21
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What do you mean by the DT220 screwed onto the back? Pictures?
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Old 27th March 2013, 04:17 AM   #22
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The Beta 10 CX is a coaxial driver, with a 1.375" threaded hole for the tweeter.

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Without tweeter;

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I use an active line level XO and drive the compression tweeter with a small amp. To match the Beta 10 with 500 watts, only 16 are needed to the tweeter.
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Old 27th March 2013, 05:12 AM   #23
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Very cool, I did not even know of coaxial drivers with screw mounts for choice of tweeter. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 27th March 2013, 10:51 AM   #24
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Eminence has design a crossover specifically for their coaxials. You can find more info here.
Alternatively one can copy the Adire audio HE10.1 that used the same driver (version II here) or this kit found on a German site.
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Old 27th March 2013, 12:38 PM   #25
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What Bob said.

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I built FH3's, now recommend my next "classic rock" full-ranger
OK. A decent multiway speaker design. Plenty of those out there, so pick what takes your fancy. If you want classic rock, you dont' necessarily need maximum LF extension (since, progressive rock aside, it doesn't go very low) but you do need good dynamic range, especially in the ~60Hz - 120Hz region where a lot of the LF in rock is concentrated. So as a very basic ROT, go for a design with plenty of cone area & decent efficiency. And make sure whoever did the XO is competent at it.
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Old 27th March 2013, 10:44 PM   #26
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So long as you didn't need to listen really loud. Just loud-ish, I like the Dayton F.A.S.T suggestion from Carl.

Some of the old classic rock can sound a bit lean. So I'd like the option of being able to adjust the low end to taste, depending on material.

The black aesthetic suits also.

The FR could work well in a sealed box.
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Old 27th March 2013, 11:49 PM   #27
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Thanks Tim. I was actually thinking two of the FR's in each box. You will raise the sensitivity to more in line with the woofer but still low enough to look at it as BSC and you have the option of placing the second driver on the side or rear of the enclosure if you so choose. Makes for some interesting imaging when placed on the side. Yes the FR's go in their own sub-enclosure and XO's around 200 Hz would give plenty of power handling. The OP can pick whatever drivers he wishes, I was just throwing the idea out there for consideration.
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Old 28th March 2013, 12:47 AM   #28
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Default Wow, lots of suggestions!

I appreciate it. I'm not looking to break SPL records or anything. I just would like to be able to crank it up on occasion without worrying about over-driving the little 4"ers in my FH3's. On the louder music end of my musical spectrum I listen to classic rock (Zep, Tull, Rush, etc.- hey, I'm 51&#128516 and I'm also a big prog rock and jazz fan (Spock's Beard, Brand X, RTF, etc.). That's where it helps to be able to turn the volume to the right a bit.

I'd like to build speakers that look good while being up to the task. And while I'd consider building non-full rangers, I'd need some that have good plans, for both the cabinets and the crossovers. That's what initially drew me to the FH3's, since they were the first speakers I ever built (that, and the great reviews I read).

Again, my amp is now a Audio Analogue Puccini SE at 50 quality watts per side, so I don't need super-efficient flea amp capable designs. I may go that route at some point again, but I'll just build something else if and when that happens!

Again, thanks for all the input. I'm still looking for someone to point me to a "ready to build" solution since a speaker-designer I'm not.

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Old 28th March 2013, 01:44 AM   #29
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You might want to check out the MAURBACS MTM if you are in market for multiway.
Maurbacs NS6 MTM
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Old 28th March 2013, 01:52 AM   #30
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Or FR an Alpair 12P super pencil
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