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Old 26th March 2013, 12:08 AM   #11
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Most speakers I have heard over the years that were marketed as rock speakers were dependably pretty bad. I suppose an MTM design with quality drivers would be better than most because they move more air while bass remains tight. One of the micro tower designs that feature a pair of CHR70s in each cabinet could qualify as full range rock speakers. Any other thoughts on this.
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Old 26th March 2013, 12:53 AM   #12
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Yes the TB 1772 is twice the price of the Betsy K. Is it worth the difference? YES! I have both, the Betsy is an excellent driver for the price no question. The TB out performs it by a large margin in a slightly smaller enclosure.

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Old 26th March 2013, 01:43 AM   #13
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Great to have first hand impressions from someone who has both.
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Old 26th March 2013, 02:57 PM   #14
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A step up would be 8 inch TangBand 1772's in a mass loaded transmission line! Good bass able to "rock the house" on a few good watts! Fairly simple construction, great results and not TOO expensive! I have been enjoying mine for a couple years now running a 5 watt KT88 se amp.

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Larry,

Can you point me to a link with more info (plans) on the dual 8" Tang Band speaker you're talking about?

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Old 26th March 2013, 09:42 PM   #15
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You might want to check out Bob Brines' website - he sells plans (and speakers) for the TB 1772 MLTL. They are fully computer designed of course.

If you haven't seen my thread on 'accidental MLTL design', I have come up (without any modeling, other than a bass reflex calc, so YMMV) a MLTL for the 1772 as: 42 in long x 110 square in cross sectional area with a 4 in dia x 2 in long vent for a fb=50 Hz, mount driver 14 in from top, vent facing direction of your choice near bottom, stuff top 28 in.
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Old 26th March 2013, 10:16 PM   #16
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You might want to also consider a FAST system with a smaller PA type woofer and something sensitive like a Fostex driver. That'll give you the rockin' volume. Those TB's are far too pretty to treat them mean like a little rocker.
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Old 26th March 2013, 10:29 PM   #17
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Or:
Maybe one of these
Dayton Audio PA255-8 10" Pro Woofer 295-030
Paired with a couple of these per side might work. Gives you the option of driver placement and no worries about BSC.
Dayton Audio RS100-8 4" Reference Full-Range Driver 295-352
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Old 27th March 2013, 02:18 AM   #18
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I agree with Cal that the 1772 is too pretty to be abused with rocking music. Although 'classic' rock isn't too bad. Best to stay away from expensive girlie man drivers if you want to drive to excursion limit. The PA woofer with a good fullrange FAST is also a great idea.
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Old 27th March 2013, 02:31 AM   #19
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The thing is, wide-range drivers are about finesse, not power. Basically, hard rockers need not apply. The requirements of the heavy stuff is beyond the capabilities of almost all wide-rangers.

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Old 27th March 2013, 02:42 AM   #20
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If you want to rock & roll, I can recommend the Eminence Beta 10CX with a Selenium DT220 screwed into the back of it. It's what I run in the garage.

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You get pro sound SPL as well as the point source advantages. I also use a 12" vented sub.

You can put half a kilowatt into these and get to almost concert level. It Rocks!

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