WAF and speaker design choices

FozzZ · 5th March 2013, 12:37 AM

I will be renovating my living room this spring and planned on building two set of speakers for the room. One was a the Maeshowe cabinets with the EL70 Fullrange speakers. The second was supposed to be a 2way using the Seas Millenuim tweeter and ScanSpeak Revelator 18w mids. I have all these speakers already and have purchased the Mashowe design.

Tonight I took my wife and kids out to dinner and I mentioned that I would be putting two set of speakers (not small ones) in our living room. Not to go into to detail, but suffice it to say I will only be putting one pair of speakers in our living room. LOL!
With the speakers I've mentioned above, what options would you all suggest? I've considered selling the Scans and Seas and just use the Fullrange. I've considered using the scan and Fullrange (dipole) and selling the tweeters and finally selling the EL70 Fullrange and use the 2way only.
All the speakers are new and never used.

I know this isn't specifically a Fullrange question, but because the EL70 was involved, I asked you guys.

Thanks

Kindhornman · 5th March 2013, 12:42 AM

Perhaps you could make her real happy and think about an in-wall design. She wouldn't have to see the enclosures and if you are redoing the room you can open up the wall and hide the enclosure. Then perhaps you could get away with the second set of speakers for a rear channel. Just a thought.

FozzZ · 5th March 2013, 01:01 AM

That would be a good idea but we don't really have an option for in-walls in this room. The wall the speakers will be on is made mostly of stone. This is also a stereo only room, for general listening (and critical if I'm lucky).

xrk971 · 5th March 2013, 01:05 AM

Cornucopya wall mounts decorated ad paintings/pictures don't count as speakers do they?

FozzZ · 5th March 2013, 01:36 AM

I think floor standing in one form or another will be the result. I do have limits to how accommodating I'm willing to be.

guangui · 5th March 2013, 02:37 AM

I think you can do a high WAF, nice sounding full range speaker with your CSS EL70's, maybe a TQWT or TL configuration. You can compromise in the width by making the cabinet taller and or deeper. If your woodworking skills are not up to par, you can always have a cabinet maker make them for you, or cut the wood for you; there are also CNC shops that can do that. You can round the edges with a router, or have cabinet maker or CNC shop do it. That way you have a nice termination that the wife will like. As for color, there are many choices. I know how to cut, and recently started to practice and learn with my router, but when it comes to stain and varnishing I hate how time consuming it is. For my next wood cabinets, if large, I will take to the body shop of a friend and paint with car paint (hundreds of choices), and then clearcoat with a few coats.

FozzZ · 5th March 2013, 02:49 AM

The size and shape of the cabinet isn't really an issue. It's just that my wife would prefer I had one set of speakers in the living room rather than two. I'm just going to sell off what I don't use. I tend to collect audio gear that never seems to get used and it just sits in boxes around the house. Ive already sold a bunch of gear and this is the best of whats left. So my decision is picking from the speakers I have and what arrangement would be best for them.

I have a woodshop on the back of my property, so construction isn't an issue.

Thanks for the input so far

guangui · 5th March 2013, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FozzZ

The size and shape of the cabinet isn't really an issue. It's just that my wife would prefer I had one set of speakers in the living room rather than two. I'm just going to sell off what I don't use. I tend to collect audio gear that never seems to get used and it just sits in boxes around the house. Ive already sold a bunch of gear and this is the best of whats left. So my decision is picking from the speakers I have and what arrangement would be best for them.

I have a woodshop on the back of my property, so construction isn't an issue.

Thanks for the input so far

How about a bookshelf and a floorstand pair? I would do a 2-Way bookshelf, and a full range floorstand. A nice pair of stands will complement any decor. Though bulky, see how this stands are coming along.

FozzZ · 5th March 2013, 03:02 AM

That's what I was hoping for, but alas, one set only. That's why I was thinking I could mix the speakers together to make somthing unique (Scans for bottom end with the EL70 for mid and top end as an example).

guangui · 5th March 2013, 03:53 AM

I would go designing and building a 2-Way bookshelf or floorstand with the mid and tweet, and would hold on to the EL70's for a future project.

5th March 2013, 12:37 AM	#1
FozzZ diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2010	WAF and speaker design choices I will be renovating my living room this spring and planned on building two set of speakers for the room. One was a the Maeshowe cabinets with the EL70 Fullrange speakers. The second was supposed to be a 2way using the Seas Millenuim tweeter and ScanSpeak Revelator 18w mids. I have all these speakers already and have purchased the Mashowe design. Tonight I took my wife and kids out to dinner and I mentioned that I would be putting two set of speakers (not small ones) in our living room. Not to go into to detail, but suffice it to say I will only be putting one pair of speakers in our living room. LOL! With the speakers I've mentioned above, what options would you all suggest? I've considered selling the Scans and Seas and just use the Fullrange. I've considered using the scan and Fullrange (dipole) and selling the tweeters and finally selling the EL70 Fullrange and use the 2way only. All the speakers are new and never used. I know this isn't specifically a Fullrange question, but because the EL70 was involved, I asked you guys. Thanks

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5th March 2013, 12:42 AM	#2
Kindhornman diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Los Angeles, California	Perhaps you could make her real happy and think about an in-wall design. She wouldn't have to see the enclosures and if you are redoing the room you can open up the wall and hide the enclosure. Then perhaps you could get away with the second set of speakers for a rear channel. Just a thought.

5th March 2013, 01:01 AM	#3
FozzZ diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2010	That would be a good idea but we don't really have an option for in-walls in this room. The wall the speakers will be on is made mostly of stone. This is also a stereo only room, for general listening (and critical if I'm lucky).

5th March 2013, 01:05 AM	#4
xrk971 diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Virginia	Cornucopya wall mounts decorated ad paintings/pictures don't count as speakers do they?

5th March 2013, 01:36 AM	#5
FozzZ diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2010	I think floor standing in one form or another will be the result. I do have limits to how accommodating I'm willing to be.

5th March 2013, 02:37 AM	#6
guangui diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2013	I think you can do a high WAF, nice sounding full range speaker with your CSS EL70's, maybe a TQWT or TL configuration. You can compromise in the width by making the cabinet taller and or deeper. If your woodworking skills are not up to par, you can always have a cabinet maker make them for you, or cut the wood for you; there are also CNC shops that can do that. You can round the edges with a router, or have cabinet maker or CNC shop do it. That way you have a nice termination that the wife will like. As for color, there are many choices. I know how to cut, and recently started to practice and learn with my router, but when it comes to stain and varnishing I hate how time consuming it is. For my next wood cabinets, if large, I will take to the body shop of a friend and paint with car paint (hundreds of choices), and then clearcoat with a few coats.

5th March 2013, 02:49 AM	#7
FozzZ diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2010	The size and shape of the cabinet isn't really an issue. It's just that my wife would prefer I had one set of speakers in the living room rather than two. I'm just going to sell off what I don't use. I tend to collect audio gear that never seems to get used and it just sits in boxes around the house. Ive already sold a bunch of gear and this is the best of whats left. So my decision is picking from the speakers I have and what arrangement would be best for them. I have a woodshop on the back of my property, so construction isn't an issue. Thanks for the input so far

5th March 2013, 03:02 AM	#9
FozzZ diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2010	That's what I was hoping for, but alas, one set only. That's why I was thinking I could mix the speakers together to make somthing unique (Scans for bottom end with the EL70 for mid and top end as an example).

5th March 2013, 03:53 AM	#10
guangui diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2013	I would go designing and building a 2-Way bookshelf or floorstand with the mid and tweet, and would hold on to the EL70's for a future project.