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Old 24th January 2013, 08:04 AM   #51
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...Once again proving that in the majority of cases a simple MLTL is the best overall alignment.
+1. Personally I'd go with an MLTL pretty much every time it's a viable option over an ML horn / Voigt. Since he asked for one of the latter (amongst many other things ) I gave him one, but simple works for me too.

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Old 24th January 2013, 02:59 PM   #52
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G-GM does not suggest what the two of you and get you listed (I understand) ML TL or TQWT box?
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You are welcome, though sorry, I do not understand what you are asking.

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Since he asked for one of the latter (amongst many other things ) I gave him one
Understood, I just wanted to point it out for any less well informed folks that are or may in the future browse this thread.

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Old 24th January 2013, 04:00 PM   #54
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Good point.

For the other, I'm guessing he was asking which of the two graphs in your post was which. My suspicion is that he doesn't speak any English at all and is going through some kind of on-line translation package, so the majority of what we're saying is lost, even some of the simple stuff like that. Let's see if this works:

'TQWT' (Voigt pipe / ML horn) on the left.
MLTL on the right.
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Old 24th January 2013, 08:14 PM   #55
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Hmm, I see I spelled Voigt right once, wrong once.

Anyway, out of curiosity, I used Google to translate it into Spanish, then back again and it did better than I expected, but still pretty confusing even though I already know what it all means.

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Interesting! This car has less Vb net, but a larger footprint due to be shorter than my 60 "MLTL, so mine has a slightly better LF response, however, the theory of Voigt pipe is not as well high frequency response, the response must therefore be a MLTL transient expansion with a larger, longer ventilation.

Proving once again that, in most cases a single MLTL is the best overall alignment.

Both sims are populated identically and used last revised controller specifications.

Voight left tube:

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Not too bad, especially for a 2-way translation. So probably not that after all. Oh well, beats me. I don't see how we can make it much clearer short of us building them & taking photographs. I don't know about you Greg, but I reckon that'd be taking it a bit far.
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Ya think?!

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You are welcome, though sorry, I do not understand what you are asking.

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Hi GM!
I was wondering which is the better option boxes for BG-20 ML-TL or ML-TQWT, that which gives better sound?
Otherwise you all understand ...
I stand poor with the English , so I'm going to translate google.
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Make a BG-20a in MLTL
and a BG-20b inTQWT
Then you can share with us the results
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Old 25th January 2013, 02:36 PM   #60
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I do not know, I only know that mathematically the MLTL is the better performing design [alignment] overall.

As 'picowallspeaker' suggested, the only way to know for sure if the sonic differences are enough to be audible as well as 'better', you would have to make one of each type and compare them

Good luck with whichever one you build and please come back and let us know how they perform.

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