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Old 12th January 2013, 04:40 PM   #31
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OK, 'fess up Cal. What is your Fab Five lineup then?
This is primarily because of what they do in the midrange and up. The EL70 excels in the bass. I find the upper frequencies a bit clouded.
In no particular order, and I don't have some of the #'s here

3" LG - the one in the small Cornucopya
6" Sansui - best all around driver
5.25" RS 1354 - sentimental value
4" Coral holey version of the F103 - vocals unbeaten
4" Foster 10F3 - good vocals
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Old 12th January 2013, 08:18 PM   #32
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Cal,,
Thanks for sharing. Lot's of oldie but goodies there.
Just because a driver is newer or more expensive doesn't always mean it's better to our ears. I wish you can figure out what model number that LG is, someone on eBay must have it. I am real curious and surprised that you like it more than the FF125wk in the bigger Cornucopya.
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Old 13th January 2013, 08:59 AM   #33
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Thanks, Cal. Doesn't say much for the likes of Markaudio or Jordan.

Could you give any more clues about the Sansui? I'm looking for an all-rounder.
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Old 13th January 2013, 09:52 AM   #34
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Could you give any more clues about the Sansui?
He is probably talking about the F10. Sort of a last kick at the can just as the world was transitioning to mostly multiways. A very fine driver. Probably built be Atomix.

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Thanks for that. Any idea what they were used in? What I should look out for on ebay?
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Old 13th January 2013, 10:32 AM   #37
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I did give the Monacor SP-155 a chance in a set of small Ace horn's, and I am surpriced over the god over all quality of a speaker that is quite cheap to make.
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Old 13th January 2013, 11:23 AM   #38
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Thanks planet10, you're always helpful.

Just out of interest, as I know you supply drivers, what do you reckon is the best one that you sell, for mid-range and upper smoothness, and good vocals?
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Old 13th January 2013, 11:32 AM   #39
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Default $1,000 a pair- best "full range" sound?

Hi Castle John,

This is a great question and its good to keep asking at as technology is always evolving, and sometimes even improving!
In my experience over the last 15 years the Manger Driver (approx $1,600 a pair so over budget) was / is king of the single driver hill, but only if you can afford to build the right cabinet and a great crossover.
Also the Mangers astonishing sonic performance above 200Hz ( 400Hz if you want high SPL) falls apart if you allow anything below 200Hz to reach it...So its really a two way design not a full ranger with a sub.

But over the last 2 years I have been searching for a lower ( mass market) priced alternative to the Manger.
Fostex and Lowether rip my ears to pieces when they are asked to play complex music at any medium to high SPL...Jordan were better but still very thin and "washed out" compared to good paper cones and AMT tweeters, and just edgy and aggressive compared to the Manger.

To my ears The new king of the hill is the 4.5 inch Neo BMR from Hi Wave.
It was only $60 at Parts Express a couple of years ago, then the $ of Neo magnets went up by about 300%...Parts Express discontinued the driver and now only sell the small 2 and 3 inch ferrite BMR's which are pretty crap!

I have attached a couple of pics of the BMR in an 8 driver line array, they are hung on wall and sound really beautiful run 100% full range, no sub(!) and no crossover. I use a bit of Eq with JRiver / JPlay but even that is just the icing on a fundamentaly sweet and tasty cake... Highly recomended audio feast!!
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Overkill,
Thanks for pointing out the Hi Wave. A search on PE turned up a 3.5 inch version. It looks like it has great off axis response but the efficiency is not so good. What was efficiency of the 4.5 in Neo model you used?
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