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Old 15th December 2012, 03:02 AM   #11
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Not really. There is no way you can remember the sound of a speaker days-weeks ago.
2 identical pair of speakers side by side, 1 with drivers that had been playing 7/25 for 6osh days and a 2nd pair with drivers freah out of th ebox. No delay between one pair & the other. Dramatic differences.

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Old 15th December 2012, 03:15 AM   #12
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Not really. There is no way you can remember the sound of a speaker days-weeks ago. This is particularly true if he has been listening to the same speakers all that time. The OP's report would have more credibility if another speaker was used as a reference before/after. Still, a single individual switching components is not a very good test. I know this from personal experience.

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It took 10 minutes to swap out the drivers. The change was immediately apparent. I didn't create this thread frivolously. Your logic makes no sense. I have been listening to the same system for 14 months straight. I know what it sounded like. 10 minutes later, it sounded very different. I had to turn my sub on. I had to dial my tone controls.

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Old 15th December 2012, 03:17 AM   #13
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Acclimation is bigger than driver break-in. If you think otherwise, you haven't built many speakers.
When you swap nothing but the drivers in a 10 minute interval, there is no acclimation involved. The sound is dramatically different.

Like many of you around here, I spend hours a day (many hours) listening to my system. I change nothing. It always sounds the same. I changed the drivers out for new ones and bam! Different! So much so that my wife and one daughter commented on it. After all, I had to convince the wife to let me buy them in the first place...

Me: "Ummm, ya... I know, I just have to dial in the tone controls..."

Her: [rolleyes]

Perhaps I am missing your point?

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Old 15th December 2012, 03:19 AM   #14
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Great suggestion by Pano, if possible please get some measurements done. (another break-in believer )
No way. I am convinced. That's good enough for me. I just wanted to report it, not prove it.
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Old 15th December 2012, 03:20 AM   #15
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2 identical pair of speakers side by side, 1 with drivers that had been playing 7/25 for 6osh days and a 2nd pair with drivers freah out of th ebox. No delay between one pair & the other. Dramatic differences.

dave

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Apparently Dave and I can hear better than the rest of you.
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Old 15th December 2012, 03:27 AM   #16
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of course, who can argue that you did not hear what you heard? that is your reality but it doesn't mean that it has to be mine too....
True. However, if you were here at the time (and you are not tone deaf) you would have experienced the same thing. I'd put a thousand bucks on it.
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Old 15th December 2012, 03:38 AM   #17
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BTW, it seems simple enough to me.:

Fs on the EL70 is rated at 64hz. The "old" drivers were likely reaching that low.

Fs on the 4 new ones were measured by Dave to be closer to 70hz.

Include the fact that this is a MLTL design, recognizing the fact that such designs rely heavily on lower Fs to really start to dig deep. That 8hz delta would translate to significant bass loss in an MLTL. That's what I am hearing, and I have no doubt I will get it all back, in time.
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No way. I am convinced. That's good enough for me. I just wanted to report it, not prove it.
Not asking you to prove it - it's a great opportunity to get some data. I hear differences between a fresh driver and broken in driver BTW.
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No way. I am convinced. That's good enough for me. I just wanted to report it, not prove it.
What kind of replies did you expect?
I guess you dont need to contribute to this topic anymore.
Thanx for reporting.
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