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Old 3rd November 2012, 07:19 AM   #11
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I ended up using a simple 11L sealed enclosure with subwoofer support. The subwoofer is not needed for music. I really need the setup to ROCK, and Lady Gaga's bass tracks to hit HARD. And to me sealed does that best. Keep in mind that my music selection are very different from others in this fullrange forum, and for certain kinds of music, a transmission line would work best.
I thought all of the full range guys listen to lady gaga.
Well, maybe just when they want to impress visitors.


Hey kids.....you wanna listen to lady googah?
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Of course... no one ever admits to listening to Lady Googah and Nelly Furturdo but everyone knows everybody does
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Old 3rd November 2012, 09:27 AM   #13
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Speak for yourself.

Now, while I can't say I like her music, I can cope with Jessie J. She does at least have a good voice. Not the best, but good.

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I built the ported bookshelf cabinets. Actually I repurposed me other cabinets of that size for use with the 12's. Will probably build the Pencil eventually.
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Thanks cotdt and ejfud, I am thinking of Pensil for my pair.
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Old 3rd November 2012, 08:42 PM   #16
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Of course... no one ever admits to listening to Lady Googah and Nelly Furturdo but everyone knows everybody does
haha
btw, how low is your xo to your subs?
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btw, how low is your xo to your subs?
I'm crossing at 60Hz to the sub. But it sounds just as good without the sub.
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I'm crossing at 60Hz to the sub. But it sounds just as good without the sub.
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why so low, did you experiemented here. for example did you try around 100 hertz, 80 hz, 120 hz?
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why so low, did you experiemented here. for example did you try around 100 hertz, 80 hz, 120 hz?
The 12P can play down to 60Hz no problem, and with a port it can even play down flat to 40Hz.

The subwoofer becomes directional if crossed at 100Hz, you can tell where the sound is coming from and even part of the vocals will come out of it. Bad bad. The lower you cross, the more seemless the sub will be.

I'm using a 2W 45 tube amp to drive the 12P's and I can't beleive how loud this thing gets and how much visible excursion is on the 12P's. Don't be afraid to push it, you can get serious output with it with even low power amps.
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Old 4th November 2012, 12:17 AM   #20
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The 12P can play down to 60Hz no problem, and with a port it can even play down flat to 40Hz.

The subwoofer becomes directional if crossed at 100Hz, you can tell where the sound is coming from and even part of the vocals will come out of it. Bad bad. The lower you cross, the more seemless the sub will be.

I'm using a 2W 45 tube amp to drive the 12P's and I can't beleive how loud this thing gets and how much visible excursion is on the 12P's. Don't be afraid to push it, you can get serious output with it with even low power amps.
Only a bass and baritone enter at 100 or so. Directon is a non issue with stereo subs and even with that bass is omni directional, really can't see this as an issue unless your bass cabinet is stuffed in a corner. Let your ears decide, I for one have no problem crossing over at 100-120 Hz!
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