Alpair 7, 10 or 12

murphythecat8 · 10:12 PM

hi.
So, I want to build bookshelves to sit on my stereo active subs.

Which of those 3 would be best.

I know that the bigger the driver, the better the midbass is and I know how important the midbass is in music. well for me it is. I use right now the fe127en which are 4 inch and I'm looking for essentially a upgrade. I like the sound of the fonkens, but I have to admit that the sound is a bit thin. I'm looking for more weight and a fuller sound.

Right now I'm leaning toward the alpair 10, but the 8 inch seems interesting. can anyone tell me if the alpair 12 is a better driver?

I'm trying to upgrade from my fe127en Fonkens...

planet10 · 21st October 2012, 10:37 PM

The Alpair 10.2 is a nominal 5.25" driver, the Alpair 12.2p a 6.5" driver. The 10 goes lower.

dave

murphythecat8 · 21st October 2012, 10:51 PM

okay thanks.
for you Dave, which one is better in the midbass department. I'm looking for more weight and bigger sound and so logically bigger is better for that...

I think that overall however, you prefer the 7?

planet10 · 21st October 2012, 10:56 PM

Overall i do prefer the 7. For your needs i'd suggest the 10.

dave

murphythecat8 · 21st October 2012, 11:16 PM

so there a real difference in the midbass department when we compare the 10 with the 7?

Also, I dont like to put a high xo for my subs. I like to keep the xo as low as possible, around 80-100 hertz.
but my main concern is the midbass, so your saying that the 10 is a clear winner in that department?

planet10 · 21st October 2012, 11:25 PM

The A10.2 beat sout the A7.3 in bass & midbass, above that the A7 comes into its own.

In a 10-15 litre sealed box the 10.2 rolls off quite nicely 70-80 Hz, so would ideally suit your specified woofer XO

dave

murphythecat8 · 22nd October 2012, 12:04 AM

and how better is the midrange and the highs for the a7. if I trade good midbass for okay midrange, no thanks!

I know you said in another thread that the alpair 7.2 is a definitive upgrade from the fe127en. can you elaborate a bit here. if you say the a7 is better then the a10, I dont see why I should buy the 10's...

maybe its just the fostex sound that is thin and that the A7 will be heavier sounding anyways.

norman bates · 22nd October 2012, 01:38 AM

ask this on the markaudio forum.

buzzforb · 22nd October 2012, 01:52 AM

10.2 is wonderful, but you will give up something in the trade. To me, this is what is impressive about the MA drivers you speak of. They are limited by physics more than anything, Mark does a really good job of getting everything out of them.

jimbro · 22nd October 2012, 11:51 AM

You just need to buy a pair of each and decide for yourself. Having an extra pair of speakers would not be such a bad thing, right?

21st October 2012, 10:09 PM	#1
murphythecat8 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere in Quebec	Alpair 7, 10 or 12 hi. So, I want to build bookshelves to sit on my stereo active subs. Which of those 3 would be best. I know that the bigger the driver, the better the midbass is and I know how important the midbass is in music. well for me it is. I use right now the fe127en which are 4 inch and I'm looking for essentially a upgrade. I like the sound of the fonkens, but I have to admit that the sound is a bit thin. I'm looking for more weight and a fuller sound. Right now I'm leaning toward the alpair 10, but the 8 inch seems interesting. can anyone tell me if the alpair 12 is a better driver? I'm trying to upgrade from my fe127en Fonkens... Last edited by murphythecat8; 21st October 2012 at 10:12 PM.

21st October 2012, 10:37 PM	#2
planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 5	The Alpair 10.2 is a nominal 5.25" driver, the Alpair 12.2p a 6.5" driver. The 10 goes lower. dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

21st October 2012, 10:56 PM	#4
planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 5	Overall i do prefer the 7. For your needs i'd suggest the 10. dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

21st October 2012, 11:25 PM	#6
planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 5	The A10.2 beat sout the A7.3 in bass & midbass, above that the A7 comes into its own. In a 10-15 litre sealed box the 10.2 rolls off quite nicely 70-80 Hz, so would ideally suit your specified woofer XO dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

22nd October 2012, 01:52 AM	#9
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21st October 2012, 10:51 PM	#3
murphythecat8 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere in Quebec	okay thanks. for you Dave, which one is better in the midbass department. I'm looking for more weight and bigger sound and so logically bigger is better for that... I think that overall however, you prefer the 7?

21st October 2012, 11:16 PM	#5
murphythecat8 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere in Quebec	so there a real difference in the midbass department when we compare the 10 with the 7? Also, I dont like to put a high xo for my subs. I like to keep the xo as low as possible, around 80-100 hertz. but my main concern is the midbass, so your saying that the 10 is a clear winner in that department?

22nd October 2012, 12:04 AM	#7
murphythecat8 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere in Quebec	and how better is the midrange and the highs for the a7. if I trade good midbass for okay midrange, no thanks! I know you said in another thread that the alpair 7.2 is a definitive upgrade from the fe127en. can you elaborate a bit here. if you say the a7 is better then the a10, I dont see why I should buy the 10's... maybe its just the fostex sound that is thin and that the A7 will be heavier sounding anyways.

22nd October 2012, 01:38 AM	#8
norman bates diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: iowa	ask this on the markaudio forum.

22nd October 2012, 11:51 AM	#10
jimbro diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: somewhere in Texas	You just need to buy a pair of each and decide for yourself. Having an extra pair of speakers would not be such a bad thing, right?

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