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Old 22nd February 2013, 08:42 PM   #91
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Immersive, effortless, and mesmerizing as I recall.
as I recall could be a good way to put it

we remember the experience, and an opinion, or feeling, but not the sound

had a funny experience the other day
visited a friend to hear his new 'stereo'
quite impressive with tons of power
I went home with feeling mine was worse than I thought, and would have to do something about it

but when home and listening to my own stereo I could immediately hear what his could never do, and what mine was clearly doing better still
but quite a surprice I forget my own sound so fast

or maybe I was just surpriced by the sheer power his produced
another friend have almost similar setup, and its the same thing
even more impressive effortless power, but lacks the finesse at normal listening level

funny is, I can recal the effortless power theirs have...but my own was harder to recall but at least now I know
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Old 25th February 2013, 08:03 PM   #92
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Default As I recall...

Interesting post Tinitus. I knew someone would catch that little qualifier. I tend to suffer the opposite issue. I have a very hard time adjusting to (or liking) other systems and I wonder if I've become so well 'adjusted' to mine that I take it's sound as my absolute reference. I get to listen to live music from time to time and try to take those mental notes with me wherever I go but the sound I live with the most and have become so familiar with is my own system. I sometimes wonder if the whole burn-in phenomenon that people experience is the brain filling in the gaps and adjusting over a period of time.
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Old 26th February 2013, 01:36 AM   #93
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Live music is irrelevant to many. I find it the only calibration that matters. But then for me music is primarily acoustic, so a professional bluegrass ensemble in a lively space, for example, tells me that most systems are too hot in the upper midrange. Then again, that may just be tinnitus. Now to hook up my 8 inch Stephens for the first time in years! Hope it doesn't emphasize the Makita shriek that's lodged in my head after years of finish carpentry.
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Old 26th February 2013, 04:49 AM   #94
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I think that when you have a fairly ok system, then it is painfully obvious how bad many generic systems sound. Even some so called high end systems can be irritating.
However with an open mind it is still possible to be surprised.
I vividly remember how nice big ProAc speakers married with Nagra electronics sounded. And every time again that I hear my friend's Quad electrostatics, their neutral naturalness impresses me - a first impression may even be that they are bland, but no, they are just devoid of tonal character. Or the effortless non-fatigueing soundstage of big Magneplanars driven by heavy McIntosh amps. In the FR part of the spectrum, Bert Doppenberg's Quasar system with AER drivers were also unforgettable.
In the newer jind of systems, I notice that the Naim streaming Uniti amps sound dynamic with nearly all speakers, even at low level. They're too expensive to my taste, but the sound is good.
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Old 26th February 2013, 03:49 PM   #95
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I have a pair of Goodmans TwinAxiom 8. I find them extrememly 3D, holophonic and soundstage very deep, dynamic as hell and they reach very low on the bass, play very smoothly on the highs and a mid like few can do. They just dissappear and all you hear is effortless music. My buddies are pretty stunned when they learn that it's an 8 inch driver. I find them good enough to use as referential hifi monitors and will never part with them.

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Old 3rd April 2013, 06:54 AM   #96
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It bears repeating because it is really difficult to extrapolate to the 755A sound having only heard a 755E. Totally different flavor.

Of course, it is difficult to put this kind of experiential knowledge into words that will make it come alive for someone who wasn't there, as it were.

What I get with the 755A and I'd love to find in a cheaper, readily available alternative is a crisp and clean sound with a lot of color, rich and juicy when they should be without sounding at all slow. I have described the sound as "Quads with balls" because they energize the air like an electrostat but have more bite on the leading edge.

The C and E versions are more typical, slightly fat and rolled off sounding eight inchers, pleasant but nothing special.

I agree with previous poster that Voxativ sounded pretty good. Here's a pic of the ones that I heard--bright white cones. I asked "Wow, what's playing" because they did not strike my ear as "lowthers."

Hey Joe are all those your speakers? If so I'm so very jealous. I've never had the opportunity to even see, let alone listen to or own Loth-X Audio's speaker the MINSTREL with that wonderful STAMM driver installed! Oh poor me, now I have to go listen to a pair of Fostex FE208ES-R drivers...

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Old 3rd April 2013, 01:22 PM   #97
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Hi Tom:

Been listening to Altec 756B 10" but I just picked up a pair of nice 618 style cabs crafted by DiyA member delwon, so I will be firin up teh 755As again.

The pics are from Silbatone factory in Seoul. I wouldn't want to own that many speakers but it would be nice to pick out a few pairs to take home.

Best of both worlds is to have a chance to hear them a few times a year without having to own all that museum-quality junk! Remember....you don't own your possessions, they own you!
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Old 3rd April 2013, 03:40 PM   #98
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Has anyone heard the 8" driver in the Hoyt-Bedford speakers? If so, how would it compare to others? Omega/Hoyt-Bedford is preparing to come out with a line of Drivers for DIY use based on the drivers it uses in its speakers.
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Glad to see this thread is still alive! From my experience, the Stephens 80fr's are very nice, and have something resembling actual power handling capability (not hundreds of watts, but at least ten IIRC). And to answer Joe Robert's question about the Pioneer PIM-6 and 8: I have a pair of the 6's in factory cabinets and they are, indeed, all that. The best small loudspeaker I've ever heard. Sit close (they only handle 1.5 watts), put on some music, and the room you're in disappears. A better box would probably be in order but...

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Old 4th April 2013, 02:39 AM   #100
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Has anyone heard the 8" driver in the Hoyt-Bedford speakers? If so, how would it compare to others? Omega/Hoyt-Bedford is preparing to come out with a line of Drivers for DIY use based on the drivers it uses in its speakers.
I didn't know about this driver, it does look interesting. Does anyone know when they plan to release it for the diy community? Good to see increasing interest in fullrange drivers - ok it is still very much niche but still!
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