FR Newbie, Likes All Kinds Of Music - diyAudio
Go Back   Home > Forums > Loudspeakers > Full Range

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 29th September 2012, 11:49 AM   #1
stlblue is offline stlblue  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: OH
Default FR Newbie, Likes All Kinds Of Music

Greetings All:

Need to replace Altec 604's with smaller cabinets. I'm very interested in FR's, but I like all kinds of music. One minute I could be listening to Sinatra, then next it's The Who. On to Anita Baker, then SRV. Next could be John Denver, then Pavarotti. Gospel for a while, then on to classical. You get the picture...

I realize there are always compromises, but considering the fact I'll be using a Red Wine Audio 30 watt amp (will be looking at an F3, later), what drivers would you recommend I consider, based on the diverse music interest? - Thanks
  Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2012, 02:29 PM   #2
MPM is offline MPM  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Alabama
How small are the smaller cabinets you talk about? This can make a difference in the suggested driver. To me, when I think small cabinets I also add a subwoofer(bass module, call it what you want) to the mix.

For everyday listening my 2.1 setup in the bedroom works very well. From parts-express.com a Dayton 2.1 amp. It drives a Tuba18 from billfitzmaurice.com and some 3" tangbands in a sealed box. Works better than it should.
  Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2012, 02:41 PM   #3
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Canton Michigan
Quote:
Originally Posted by stlblue View Post
Greetings All:

Need to replace Altec 604's with smaller cabinets. I'm very interested in FR's, but I like all kinds of music. One minute I could be listening to Sinatra, then next it's The Who. On to Anita Baker, then SRV. Next could be John Denver, then Pavarotti. Gospel for a while, then on to classical. You get the picture...

I realize there are always compromises, but considering the fact I'll be using a Red Wine Audio 30 watt amp (will be looking at an F3, later), what drivers would you recommend I consider, based on the diverse music interest? - Thanks

I would look at planet 10 and e-mail dave he has being doing this fullrange driver thing for years. I would start from the bottom. I would buy 3 brands of small fullrange drivers. Fostex,mark audio and tang band. I would start with the fostex Fe103en or fe126en, or the ff125wk drivers. then look at the mark audio drivers CHR -70 or the Alpair 6-m drivers. Now look at the tang band drivers W4-1320sif or the same driver but a 3 inch and a better magnet. The W3-1364sa or the 5 inch driver from tang band. The W5-1661saf drivers. I can't say to much about all these drivers but, I can tell you am a fostex fan. In all the years I have had fostex drivers no matter how hard I push the drivers they stand the test of time and last for for me. Again I would contact dave from planet 10 and ask him what he thinks. Cheers jm

Last edited by cross reference; 29th September 2012 at 02:44 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2012, 08:42 PM   #4
stlblue is offline stlblue  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: OH
Quote:
Originally Posted by MPM View Post
How small are the smaller cabinets you talk about? This can make a difference in the suggested driver. To me, when I think small cabinets I also add a subwoofer(bass module, call it what you want) to the mix.

For everyday listening my 2.1 setup in the bedroom works very well. From parts-express.com a Dayton 2.1 amp. It drives a Tuba18 from billfitzmaurice.com and some 3" tangbands in a sealed box. Works better than it should.
8" or 10". I have been looking at the Zu Omens & Tekton Lores (those are acceptable cabinet sizes), but wonder if I could do better (aka cheaper) myself. Perhaps I don't need an additional HF driver...added costs and reduced imaging(?). I really don't want to go any bigger that the TT-2000: Speakers - FredT300B's Photos

Maybe I can go w/ a full range speaker & add a sub later (if needed). I want to stay away from PHY's & (premium) Seas. The 10" alnico AN's are an acceptable price, but really don't want to go higher (unless adding a ribbon tweeter would make that much difference).

I was going to build new cabinets for my 604's, but the significant other was not thrilled w/ it, to say the least. I'm trying to be respectful of her wishes & do something w/ higher WAF.
  Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2012, 08:45 PM   #5
stlblue is offline stlblue  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: OH
Quote:
Originally Posted by natural sound View Post
I would look at planet 10 and e-mail dave he has being doing this fullrange driver thing for years. I would start from the bottom. I would buy 3 brands of small fullrange drivers. Fostex,mark audio and tang band. I would start with the fostex Fe103en or fe126en, or the ff125wk drivers. then look at the mark audio drivers CHR -70 or the Alpair 6-m drivers. Now look at the tang band drivers W4-1320sif or the same driver but a 3 inch and a better magnet. The W3-1364sa or the 5 inch driver from tang band. The W5-1661saf drivers. I can't say to much about all these drivers but, I can tell you am a fostex fan. In all the years I have had fostex drivers no matter how hard I push the drivers they stand the test of time and last for for me. Again I would contact dave from planet 10 and ask him what he thinks. Cheers jm
Thanks, I should have mentioned that 8" or 10" are acceptable. I'm just trying to eliminate the 9 cubic foot boxes the Altecs would require. When my girlfriend said, "I don't want those in my family room," I said in jest, "Then you don't want me in your family." She has relented, but I am willing to compromise, to a degree.
  Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2012, 08:57 PM   #6
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
Blog Entries: 5
Me, i haven't yet found a big driver i really like (ie 6" or bigger). But you are coming from a really big driver. You might look to something with twin Alpair 10.2. Or the TB W8-1808 (i think they are overpriced, but lots of people really like them)

Tanken 1808 (Tang Band 1808)

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2012, 09:07 PM   #7
diyAudio Member
 
vinylkid58's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Victoria, B.C.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stlblue View Post
Need to replace Altec 604's with smaller cabinets. I'm very interested in FR's, but I like all kinds of music. One minute I could be listening to Sinatra, then next it's The Who. On to Anita Baker, then SRV. Next could be John Denver, then Pavarotti. Gospel for a while, then on to classical. You get the picture...
How small? My A12p Super Pencils seem happy playing anything, but they aren't diminutive @ 10" wide x 19" deep x 37" tall, plus another 4" for the riser stands.

jeff
  Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2012, 12:46 AM   #8
stlblue is offline stlblue  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: OH
Quote:
Originally Posted by planet10 View Post
Very nice.
  Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2012, 02:39 AM   #9
GM is offline GM  United States
diyAudio Member
 
GM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chamblee, Ga.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stlblue View Post
I'm just trying to eliminate the 9 cubic foot boxes the Altecs would require. When my girlfriend said, "I don't want those in my family room," I said in jest, "Then you don't want me in your family." She has relented, but I am willing to compromise, to a degree.
Based on your listening habits and current speakers, shifting to a 'FR' system is an exercise in futility. The Lores size is almost doable for the 604 except turn it sideways and increase this 'width' just enough to physically install the 604.

If you decide to go this route, PM me and I'll work up the rest of the design.

GM
__________________
Loud is Beautiful if it's Clean! As always though, the usual disclaimers apply to this post's contents.
  Reply With Quote
Old 30th September 2012, 04:46 AM   #10
diyAudio Member
 
norman bates's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: iowa
Quote:
Originally Posted by GM View Post
Based on your listening habits and current speakers, shifting to a 'FR' system is an exercise in futility. The Lores size is almost doable for the 604 except turn it sideways and increase this 'width' just enough to physically install the 604.

If you decide to go this route, PM me and I'll work up the rest of the design.

GM

+1
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Much of this stuff is DIY and it does Rock and Blues, both kinds of music. DualTriode Music 0 20th February 2011 07:23 AM
Music for FR! OlavHaal Full Range 3 5th February 2011 07:26 AM
newbie FR questions coldcathode Full Range 9 5th December 2010 07:10 PM
Too many choices (help a FR newbie) suprf1y Full Range 4 23rd December 2007 10:24 PM
FR music...When you want to impress yourself.. Taperwood Full Range 4 25th May 2006 08:50 AM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:43 AM.


vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 1999-2014 diyAudio

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2