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Old 10th September 2012, 09:36 AM   #21
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Well, I'm certainly not dismissing them. Looks to be an interesting unit, I'll see what I can come up with in cabinet terms when I get chance (& the final production specs. are out).

Be interesting to see how they're priced. UK built generally = . Add 'Lowther' into that and that probably = . Fair enough. That frame looks rather like those of the C45; wonder if they've used that as the basis. Presumably Lowther have brought their speciality in motor design to play & helped Ted to realise some of his concepts. Good combination anyway. The phase plug design is interesting. Judging from the picture, reminds me a little of the one Decware use in their modified FE206E.

OT, re the 'crumbling cones' point made about the Alpair 10, I believe you might be thinking of the original model, which used a very soft alloy for the cone, and when driven to excess, could be deformed. You did need mechanical sympathy roughly equivalent to Captain Caveman to do this though. No problems to report from my pair, which still get some use.

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Old 10th September 2012, 10:44 AM   #23
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Something like that.
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Old 10th September 2012, 11:25 AM   #24
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funny how any mention of Jordan and immediately the knives are out! yes there does seem to be a little bias on this site due to commercial interests.
I like all the MA drivers I have heard, especially the latest Chr 70. For all the tweaking and advances, sometimes the original brew is spot on, and for what its worth I prefer the sound of the previous Alpair 6 over the new one.
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Old 10th September 2012, 11:56 AM   #25
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Saying what i was thinking Bill. I have the Alpair 6 original, and its so-so. Between Bandor, Mark Audio and Jordan there isnt much to choose between IMO. Id choose based on specs and price, like many. This new jordan has a Qts and Fs which would suit my goals almost perfectly, unlike the MA stuff im aware of.

Vb at Vas, F3 at Fs, should be a doddle.
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Old 10th September 2012, 11:59 AM   #26
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Which knives are those?

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Well, I'm certainly not dismissing them. Looks to be an interesting unit, I'll see what I can come up with in cabinet terms when I get chance (& the final production specs. are out).
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I was also a bit surprised by... immediate dismissal, based on a few numbers (as opposed to listening). Mr. Jordan's knowledge about speaker design is highly regarded, hence I am more neutral/positivily curious about this new driver.
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Thanks to the original poster for the heads up. Looks like an interesting driver.
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I am not dismissing it at all. Competition is good and i would not dismiss Ted's capabilities out of hand.

One person who doesn't generally care for FR units anyway reflects that thus far there isn't anything in the preliminary data that gets him thinking it's a big improvement over the original. Fair enough, he's entitled to express his opinion. And another person points out, quite correctly, that the new unit really does need to show a significant improvement over the original, since the competition is greater now than when the JX92 was first introduced, and in many ways, they have been surpassed. Fair point. Note that said person has also stated he'll be buying a pair. Is this supposed to be anti-Jordan? Or is everyone just supposed to bow down & worship?
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Mondo, the Bandors are my favorite sounding small metal cone drivers. They just sound lush and 'right'. Talking to Doreen last yr, she revealed a couple of her trade secrets to me, really fascinating.

Liking the look of this new Jordan tho, its v Terminator
Hope the production ones have less of a 'spike' at 9khz (partly due to the rather odd shaped roll surround?). Seeing as its basically a new driver rather than an upgrade, It wd have been interesting if the cone was very slightly smaller to improve the treble response. Just my opinion.

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i think that the reference to knives was in relation to the opinion in some circles, and not directed at you Scottmoose. The most important factor to me is use-ability. If the proto specs are what is to be expected in the production driver, then it suits my goals far better than the MA drivers that im familiar with. A slightly inflated price over the MAs, would be worth it in that situation. I cant recall details but perhaps the Bandor would also suit, IF theyre still being sold.
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Ted Jordan is still alive? How old is he? Anyone know?
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I think the Bandor units are, but their wideband drivers (or at least the ones with HF output) are smaller than the ones in question here. I suspect they're produced in small batches though, so availablity may be patchy. One way to find out though & that's to ask them.

I'm not too worried about the price on the Jordan drivers; it's speculative anyway at present, although I doubt they'll be cheap. Quality costs, especially if UK manufacture is involved, which is fair enough.
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