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Old 27th May 2012, 12:12 AM   #1
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Greetings!

I recently saw an offering for a Monacor SPX-32M MONACOR INTERNATIONAL : Product Detail Page which looks really interesting! Optically as well.

So I thought I'd give it a try and made up the following enclosure for the driver, This is my first attempt at designing a (high-end) speaker so any input is welcome!

The front face where the speaker is mounted is S1, the Wall on the opposite side S2, the beginning of the horn S3 and exit S4.

Height: 15cm Length: 25cm Width: 11cm

cheers!
hurtz
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Old 28th May 2012, 11:45 PM   #2
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I'm a bit worried about the spikes in the output starting at 5kHz, but as I simulated other speakers they will always occur when using BR or similar. Will those spikes vanish with stuffing? Or are they just a "perfect physics" artefact in the first place and will never be reproduced that way?

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Old 29th May 2012, 10:28 PM   #3
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a real life br enclosures should not have those spikes. the rear volume + duct acts like a lowpass filter. over 100hz or so, its only the front cones response.
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Old 29th May 2012, 11:48 PM   #4
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Thanks for the reply + explanation MaVo!

I have now made a (technical) drawing of the speaker, once with dimensions, and the other one with the distances. With 19mm MDF.

The green lines are L34.
And the red lines are L12, but I'm not sure if this is the accurate way of modelling it. Should the distance be taken from the cone-center to the horn-center?
Or rather cone-center to opposite wall-center? I think it might be correct the way I did it, but it would be great if someone could check/explain why or why not.

cheers!
hurtz

P.s. These pictures are SO reminding me of those floating skulls from "Bubble Bobble"...
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Old 30th May 2012, 09:49 AM   #5
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I like the box!
Maybe i will try to sim the Alpair 10.2 in this when i get home :-P Directional is good
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Old 30th May 2012, 11:15 AM   #6
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Thanks :-)

I did a quick sim of the Alpair and I found that it needs a bigger box about 17l.. but that was just playing around.

Here are the updated dimensions and Hornresp response.
Total volume of the box is 4.1l
f3 = 68Hz

I have a question about cone excursion though, Hornresp tells me that with an input power of 1W into 8Ohm I will get a cone excursion of about 1.24mm at 115Hz. The speaker can handle only 1.1mm, so will I destroy the speaker at 1W ouput of my amp already?

cheers,
hurtz!
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Old 30th May 2012, 11:48 AM   #7
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I honestly do not know.

But the hornresp simulations I have ended up building show that in all cases the hornresp prediction of xmax is far higher than the real one. But I can not answer for your simulation, it may end up being a realistic value.

I suggest you try, 4L worth of cabinet material you can find in the free bin at your wood supplier.
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Old 30th May 2012, 12:54 PM   #8
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Ok well I guess I'll see/hear if it gets critical.

Here is an updated version with better descriptions and taking into account the shape of the horn-mouth.

cheers!
hurtz
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Old 30th May 2012, 03:01 PM   #9
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dont forget Baffle Step Compensation - i dont think hornresp includes the effect it has on the response. some EQ might be necessary depending on the baffle size and speaker placement.
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Old 31st May 2012, 03:47 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info! Will keep it in mind!

cheers,
hurtz

P.s I am thinking of a compensation network as well, but as I currently lack the means of measuring I have to guess... of course if someone with proper equipment would like to build it, that would be great ;-)

Sides 261 x 207
Top 223 x 110
Bottom 242 x 110
Back 207 x 148
Front 148 x 110
Reflex 212 x 110
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