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Old 15th June 2012, 05:40 AM   #11
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At the moment I'm only playing around with this build, testing out where I like them to sit. When I get back to Wisconsin, I'll be building a new set out of spruce or ash. I want to be much more accurate with my woodwork. I have thought of building a set of matching stands but , I need to know what my "Home" environment will be first. I have looked at Zaph's designs and chose to try a T-line first. Maybe after the fallout of this build clears, I'll attempt to do a sealed enclosure for the same drivers. I really can listen to these(as they are) all day long without my ears regretting it.
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Old 15th June 2012, 07:32 AM   #12
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Where in Wisconsin? As you can see from my name I'm in the Northeast of WI.
The wood is better here. Ash, as you say and Baltic Birch from the better yards. But I rebuild from a variety of scrap pieces.

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Old 15th June 2012, 05:08 PM   #13
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Racine. Yes, I'm leaning more towards ash. I love the look. But... I keep hearing that spruce is acoustically better. Don't know about all that now, I just want what my eyes and ears like! I'll do some hunting and some soul-searching to figure out what I really want!
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Old 15th June 2012, 05:37 PM   #14
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Hard to say how wood of any sort is acoustically better if filled with denim batting on the inside. Ancient wisdom from the forum here is that the reversing directions of Baltic Birch ply or any ply is sound neutral. I think GM told me that but he will correct me as needed. Ash or other quartersawn facing over one of the inert woods is a technique done by B. Brines and others. It depends on what sort of access to tools or professional help is down there in Racine.
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Old 16th June 2012, 02:13 PM   #15
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What about veneering over MDF? Sorry....not much of woodsmith. lol
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Old 16th June 2012, 04:00 PM   #16
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This is done all the time, though quartersawn provides a better layer to work with in case of surface flaws etc. I'm just making suggestions since I too am out of my depth as a woodworker.

I started with kits from an old firm called Speakerlab. It was rumoured that Terry Can's furniture and speaker firm built them for finishing. since I have done modifications of those I've seen they are indeed MDF under veneer.

Terry Cain is one of the speakerbuilder legends. His work continues after his death here:

Cain & Cain : Single-driver speakers, Fostex drivers, horn speakers from Cain & Cain - Soundscape HiFi And Music

I point this out thinking about a desktop version of "The Abbey" which I no longer see at Cain and Cain. Perhaps someone here has a pic of it yet. Imagine a desktop version of the slanted "Voight Pipe" style on the link.
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Old 16th June 2012, 04:09 PM   #17
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Found it. A pdf shows the desktop design called the "Noogi" in a variety of finishes.
Note the driver is also small-- one of the Fostex.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...ewDBFqYC-1dA7w
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Old 16th June 2012, 04:29 PM   #18
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Nice little sub they have there too! Looks fantastic.
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Old 16th June 2012, 04:56 PM   #19
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The suprabaffle was a favorite of Cains and has been much explored here.

There is also the Terry Cain BIB thread on a Japanese craftbook design Cain built. The thread is in its way a memorial and has been going for years. And a spreadsheet program developed to make BIB's for any driver with a spec sheet has been created.

The BIB is one of two most satisfying builds I have made. I'm using it now. For my taste, no sub is needed with a BIB setup.
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Old 16th June 2012, 06:42 PM   #20
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BIBs are nice,but for what I was looking for.....Smaller Is Better. I have twin toddlers in the house and so far they've ruined three pairs of speakers for me in the living room. Sooooo......Went looking for a small set to put in my NON-CHILD ACCESSIBLE room. HAHAHA. When things get better with the children....I'll consider big floor standing. I was also thinking of building a set of the Frugal-Horn MK3 using the Mark Audio Alpair 7 drivers.
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