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Old 20th March 2012, 07:19 PM   #21
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Since we like the FF85WK and FF125WK, is there some reason we don't like the FF105WK? Or have we not heard it, or ??
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Old 20th March 2012, 07:28 PM   #22
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Since we like the FF85WK and FF125WK, is there some reason we don't like the FF105WK? Or have we not heard it, or ??
second question first - no "we" 've not heard the 105WK -

after more than a decade of experience with most sizes (available here) from 83 to 206/7, I've personally found that except for the 108Sigma, the 103 (etc) size is a bit of an orphan - very little difference in cost from the next model up, with no particular advantage to the models bracketing it

not rigorously scientific, but - there it is
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Old 20th March 2012, 07:42 PM   #23
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Since we like the FF85WK and FF125WK, is there some reason we don't like the FF105WK? Or have we not heard it, or ??
We have not heard it yet. At less than $7 each price differential, the larger FF125wk seemed a better starting place especially considering that if treated FF105s would be $205/pr vrs $220/pr for the FF125.

We will eventually look at the 105, but i have 125 & 85 to work thru 1st.

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We have not heard it yet. At less than $7 each price differential, the larger FF125wk seemed a better starting place especially considering that if treated FF105s would be $205/pr vrs $220/pr for the FF125.

We will eventually look at the 105, but i have 125 & 85 to work thru 1st.

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Thanks gents. I suspected it was mainly because it didn't offer anything significant compared to the drivers on either side/size.
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a few thoughts:

at 14.59m^2 ( 157ft^2) the described room is approx 1/2 the size of my own- I think you could definitely go for much smaller drivers all round- and sub woofer(s) - yes multiples of small units even (or particularly ) in a small room, and take advantage of the AV receiver's bass management - I don't think it can be overstated how much of a godsend that feature and the autocalibration / EQ functions of current HT processors are to someone looking to assemble a surround system with FR drivers.

definitely keep the drivers in the front row the same, but the rear surrounds could afford to be much smaller than 8"

If you want to stick with Fostex, and larger than 4" for the mains, consider the FF165WK for the front row, and FF125WK for surrounds - but honestly, I think even one size smaller than those for each location - i.e. FF125K front row and FF85WK surrounds. I've heard all three of these and the smaller 2 are very good and don't need tweeters - for some folks the 165WK might, and based on previous experience with 8" Fostex, the 225 would almost definitely .

"Power Handling" rating of loudspeakers is one of the most useless specs out there - to expand on talaerts comment - there are many other ways to damage a loudspeaker (and your hearing/enjoyment) than connecting to a properly functioning amplifier with higher "rated output" than the speakers'.

so for the size of my room would there be any point of running dual FF125K for the fronts and single FF85WK for the backs but my orignial plan was to make the fronts produce a decent amount of bass but after watching this video that i found on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itHRCOpc5zI i think that my original plan can go out the window

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Old 21st March 2012, 03:21 PM   #28
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so for the size of my room would there be any point of running dual FF125K for the fronts and single FF85WK for the backs but my orignial plan was to make the fronts produce a decent amount of bass but after watching this video that i found on youtube My Other Listening Room - YouTube i think that my original plan can go out the window


Honestly, in a room your size I think a single FF125WK per channel in the front row and FF85WK for surrounds would be plenty

With any of the current generation of surround processors or receivers, it's a breeze to set the size of speakers and XO points to let the .1 channel do all the heavy lifting below say 100-150HZ , and with 5 or more drivers plus woofer(s) pumping air, you could get louder than the room might be able to support.

This could be one of those instances were less is more.

I'm sure that engineers at THX, Dolby,. et al as well as equipment manufacturers didn't have FR nuts like us in mind when writing performance specs and designing features for multichannel A/V , but damn, they make it easy to get decent sound.
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Old 21st March 2012, 03:32 PM   #29
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Do you know was AVR you'll be using?

As Chris mentioned, a receiver with good bass management will help a lot here. And if you can use 2 or 3 woofers each set under L&R or L,C,&R speakers, you'll have a seamless cross over high enough to really help those Fostex.

* and multiple woofers smooth room modes too *
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Hi tuxedocivic the AVR i am using is a pioneer vsx-920
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