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Old 16th March 2012, 03:21 AM   #51
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Someone asked me to check that one out... i suggested 50 litres aperiodic to 400 litres sealed.

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Old 16th March 2012, 03:38 AM   #52
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OK, but not knowing the details of the Emken, how does it sim in it?

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What are they like off axis? Much beaming?

If they are FLAT to around 60hz i am sold! (Got a sensitive sub, Don't like eq much.)
Larger drivers tend to beam at higher freq. I have them with no toe in at the moment and the sweet spot is fairly narrow. This should widen significantly with toe in and moving the super tweeters around also helps with fine tuning

As for 60hz its loud and proud using this web page - http://www.ronelmm.com/tones/

It goes much lower too but its 0730am here so the neighbours wont appreciate met trying to simulate 32hz at high volume!!
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There is always some estimation going on with the "miniOnken" sims. A slightly peaked response which gets damped down by the "R" in the vents.

12LTA should roll of smoothly with F3 est at 55 Hz, F10 40 Hz.

Put the Fane in and you get a couple or 3 more Hz extension buy +2 or 3 dB peaking at 60 Hz. If you took it further you could slide some open cel foam into all the slots and get something usable.

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Old 16th March 2012, 12:21 PM   #55
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...Was thinking about the Hawthorne iris 10"
I have the Sterling version of this driver.

OB's are nice and dandy and all, but it would be nice to be able to cut away maybe 1 or 2 drivers per channel. I would also be able to have a cleaner signal path with less junk and eq in general.

The 'ken variations for different types of drivers are not really dependent on a fullrange is it? Should be possible to make something more fun with maybe a 10-15" coaxial setup, it would still be point source, you'd need a crossover, but you can easily get away with something like the passive line level designs from marchand.
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...Was thinking about the Hawthorne iris 10"
I have the Sterling version of this driver.

The 'ken variations for different types of drivers are not really dependent on a fullrange is it?
Theres the obvious 2" size difference - that and every 'ken box is designed very specifically around a specific full range driver and its own peculiarities. As far as I know its more a happy coincidence if it works with other drivers but I'm probably wrong (?Dave?)

The Hawthorne is a tweaked Eminence DC driver I believe. Where does the crossover happen? Is the 10" driver a 'mid/bass' driver or a bass driver?
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Hawthorne iris 10" Sterling
Data?

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Just wondering how they would sound with a Maggie tube amp of about 8 watts per channel? Thanks. Curt
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Just wondering how they would sound with a Maggie tube amp of about 8 watts per channel? Thanks. Curt
lend me one and i'll tell you I REALLY want a valve amp for these babies
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I'd have to pull it from the console. Sorry! I'm planning a speaker project to run of the aux with a full range driver curt
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