OK. I'm ready to embark on a PLLXO. I ran some numbers through the spreadsheet and notice that the cap values are several orders of magnitude smaller than speaker level XO's. Questions:
1. In my ignorance, it appears that the low valued caps will have to be ceramics or styrene type bypass caps. True?
2. I have no idea what the amp Z is. I suppose that I can simply assume 100kΩ, see what happens and adjust values acordingly?
3. I intend to use a plate amp to cross the sub. I'll start with 300Hz 1st ordrfor the high-pass.
4. Using a pot for the XO resistor, what kind of frequency range can I expect for a given cap?
Thanks,
Bob
1. In my ignorance, it appears that the low valued caps will have to be ceramics or styrene type bypass caps. True?
2. I have no idea what the amp Z is. I suppose that I can simply assume 100kΩ, see what happens and adjust values acordingly?
3. I intend to use a plate amp to cross the sub. I'll start with 300Hz 1st ordrfor the high-pass.
4. Using a pot for the XO resistor, what kind of frequency range can I expect for a given cap?
Thanks,
Bob
Bob, is this for the Topping?
The amp Z is essentially the R to ground at the input...
For hipass, i have been using this R as the shunt element of the RC filter and just using a cap in front for 1st order... adding an additional shunt R in front decreases the net input R and degrades potential performance if you want to reach for 2nd order and also requires a larger cap.
One of the advantages of PLLXO is that it uses much smaller caps then a passive XO, allowing you to get a much better cap for your budget -- no point in using anything but good poly caps in these.
dave
The amp Z is essentially the R to ground at the input...
For hipass, i have been using this R as the shunt element of the RC filter and just using a cap in front for 1st order... adding an additional shunt R in front decreases the net input R and degrades potential performance if you want to reach for 2nd order and also requires a larger cap.
One of the advantages of PLLXO is that it uses much smaller caps then a passive XO, allowing you to get a much better cap for your budget -- no point in using anything but good poly caps in these.
dave
Bob, is this for the Topping?
Yes
The amp Z is essentially the R to ground at the input...
OK. I can do that. The Topping reads 49kΩ, and old Yami 100kΩ and my p-p tubes 87kΩ
For hipass, i have been using this R as the shunt element of the RC filter and just using a cap in front for 1st order... adding an additional shunt R in front decreases the net input R and degrades potential performance if you want to reach for 2nd order and also requires a larger cap.
Putting 49kΩ into the spreadsheet gives 10.8nF. Unless I don't understand the units, which of course is possible, the smallest foil and film cap is 0.01μF, or 10pF and 10^3 too big. Where would you suggest that I sourse the proper caps?
Bob
0.01 is close enuff...
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You can fine tune with a shunt R across the input R.
dave
Solen Electronique Inc.
Solen Electronique Inc.
You can fine tune with a shunt R across the input R.
dave
0.01 is close enuff...
Ah! So the units on the spreadsheet are really μF. I'll buy some parts for a patch box and see what happens.
Thanks,
Bob
Here's on online converter that may help.
Online Conversion - Electric Capacitance
eta -When I ran 49 kohms through my first order calculator @ 300hz, my result was C1 = 1.0816326530612E-8 farads, so I think you are on the right track
Online Conversion - Electric Capacitance
eta -When I ran 49 kohms through my first order calculator @ 300hz, my result was C1 = 1.0816326530612E-8 farads, so I think you are on the right track
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Bob, is this for the Topping?
The amp Z is essentially the R to ground at the input...
dave
Is this also true when using a volume pot. Or is the input impedance now the impedance of the volume pot
Paul
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